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Affiliate Marketing is Big Scam. Don't let them catch you!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by leadwords, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. leadwords

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    Hey, guys, i'm in affiliate marketing and IT is about 12 years already... And today i want to discuss with you one topic i am really care about. I just want to say: affiliate marketing is big scam scheme! Everything is easy. When you attracting customers to ANY affiliat program (excludes may be 1% of them, we'll talk about it next time) with thousands buks sales and get 1-3-5-10-20% only ONCE. They are not pay you for additional sales (upsale) lifetime. Have you ever heard about LTV? Life-time value of each customers. It worth much much more then they pay you. Something about $50000 per EACH suctomer you attract! Really. This customers will come back snd pay again and pay and pay again, buy you'll not be able to get any penny, you'll need yo work hard from morning till night over and over again, for get some cash for you, your family, and for your freedom, they never let you really get... You see, how can you call it? Marketing? Business? No, brother, i am calling it Big Scam (at the light version, lol). Why? Why should you not be paid EACH time your referral pay to your advertiser? Because there are too many shiny guys like you! It's easy. While you all ready to work 10-12 hours a day all time, for attraction clicks, build landing pages, optimise conversions etc. - they will more and more rob you! Yes, they are scammers! Nothing more. There are too many guys already, it's time to change something... Are you still here? Okay, nice news is that i know the way to change it. The best way to get as much bux as your hard work really cost WITHOUT crazy risks not be paid at all and lose last money - is to work DIRECTLY. You can find several (2-3-5-7) advertisers who have not enough impudence for participating in affiliate networks. Then you just should ask them: Hey, anybody want new customers!? Believe me: any businessman will answer you: Hey, mate, sure i want! How can you help me? - Then you should explain how can you really help them to attract customers and clearly explain how much % you like to get for it from EACH current and EACH next order from this customers you will attract. It's really works, believe me, it's surprisingly easy to make it done! You can do it within 3-5-7 days or less, really. Now you can use all your expirience and time not for just loosing it with risks and getting pennies, buy for building really strong, your OWN business-system, which will work every day 24/7/365 and return investments for you, not for your affiliate manager, not for your affiliate network or your government. Are you feeling something inside now? There are some resonanse, right? If it is true, don't be hesistate, let's continue this talk right here, on BlackHatWorld thread, or (much better) let's communicate over skypе (my login is: slavaposh), just add me and i'll create group chat where i will provide some of my private tools for DIRECT advertisers attraction absolutely free. Let's make this market cleaner! Let's change our present, for our children's future! I really want your children get PROUD of you! It's very important for me, mate, i taked about 6-month rest here, on Thailand, and now i comed back and want to make explosive things now, for you, and with you. So, what about you!?
     
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  2. asap1

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    So we should get 20% of the lifetime value of the customer.

    Sounds good but that's 20-50 years from now.

    If you had a business and I charged you 10k for each person I refer would you take my offer?
     
  3. Cryogenesis

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    Didn't bother reading after the first two lines.

    Why do you promote offers that are a one-time pay instead of recurring pay ones? Dumbfuck.
    You're basically pissed at low pay and want to help us build our own business. Okay,nice.

    You're too kind,no?
     
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  4. leadwords

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    Asap1, 15% of life-time value will be okay, though, you really can get it not once, but by parts from payment to payment, from your attracted customer.
     
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    My head hurts tldr
     
  6. leadwords

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    Bro, i mean not only exactly amount of money, just count some additional things:
    - Brand building
    - Co-sales (not only upsales)
    - Sales over phone (you'll not be paid sometimes)
    - Subscriber's list they can use again. You can't now.

    You don't like idea about direct communication with advertisers, or you just don't believe it can work more profitable then over middleman (affiliate network in the middle)? I just want you to look at this again from other point and make your profits more.
     
  7. leadwords

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    Don't be hesistate to come back when you'll get some Aspirine ;))
    Read over again, and try to understand what i want to deliver to your hurted head, pleassse...;))
     
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    See you showed the one phase of the coin,you have to understand the second one also,go with the threads related to this and you will see the good about it.
     
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    My eyes are bleeding from that.

    I don't think my skype pipe will be big enough to take all that verbiage, so on this occasion, regretfully I must decline your group offer.

    That and I'm not a spaz
     
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    I refuse to read any text that isn't properly formatted.
     
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    Well, that's why I never promote sales unless they're recurring/lifetime revshare to a registered member. On apps and downloads you can always negotiate an higher payout if you send enough volume and is quality. The advertiser will agree for sure if it's like so.
    Anyway, 99% of guys who start making 1k/day+ money with affiliate marketing end up creating their products/ founding startups for that reason.
    Either way, it's not a scam, in fact is really useful to make money to fund your companies. It's easier to promote amazon than your "Backpackstoreshop.com" after all.
     
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  12. leadwords

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    Sure, easier to promote Amazon, but is it more profitable then promote YOUR own product or your street's shop/seller (you really know or want to make business with)? Just re-think.
     
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    good post OP. but i suggest u to make a paragraph, people will easy to read your post
     
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    I have seen people who made 1000+$ from affiliate marketing, adult area, maby you are just unlucky.
     
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    Meee to! i refuse to read this post!
     
  16. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Another brand new user who wants to get people into a skype group. Must have something to sell.
     
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    How about you edit that jumbled pile of text into a readable format first, huh? You may actually get some discussion going then....Yikes...
     
  18. leadwords

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    Ok, as you see it's my first post. I am sorry for format. Promise next time i'll work on it. Thank you for attention.

    I got a question. Is there are somebody got experience in direct working with advertisers? Or why you still do not do it? Is there are any problems? Tell me about some of them.
     
  19. Asif WILSON Khan

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    Just to let you know OP, before you can sell on BHW you need to become a jrVIP

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    Also your website fails to load
     
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  20. leadwords

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    I don't want to sell anything.
    And as you can see this post on WF was made more then 1 year ago. Now i'm not support this offer and website. I am working with several companies from US directly. Its much more profitable then affiliate networks. And i can teach anyone how to do the same. For free, sure.