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Advice for Newbie - Success Online - Mistakes Learned From

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by asawako, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. asawako

    asawako Newbie

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    This is an open question to anyone who is willing to share their experience and what they've learned in seo and building and maintaining websites.

    We have all had successes and failures, and hopefully learned from both. Few things are more valuable than experience and few gifts are more useful that advice from learned experiences.

    If you could go back and talk to yourself when you just started out, what advice would you give yourself in order to succeed in the seo world?
     
  2. imjs

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    Don't spend until you earn.
     
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  3. Sherbert Hoover

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    So instead of contributing something of your own, OP, you are going to throw a fishing line out there and wait for people to respond?

    You say "We have all had successes and failures, and hopefully learned from both."

    So what have you learned?
     
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  4. asawako

    asawako Newbie

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    Well, I am relatively new and am hoping that this thread can be a source of useful advice and learning for everyone here, including myself.

    However, I will share my own advice, though my experience is still rather limited.

    If I could go back and give myself advice, I would tell myself to take lots and lots of action and try not to get bogged down in and slowed down by details - to get multiple projects/sites up and running and see what works and what doesn't, because some will and some won't. And focus more on generating passive income, not active.
     
  5. cindyrose888

    cindyrose888 Power Member

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    What rubbish advice is this ?

    For those who have spent $, means that they are NOT earning ? lol :D

    Spending some infact get you MORE/FASTER earnings.
     
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  6. asmorth

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    i agree partly
    Spend, Review, decide to invest/abort

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    dont get stuck in knowledge collection cycle
    get both feet wet
    either you will earn, or you will learn
     
  7. Billy_Batts

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    Worthless advice!

    You need to spend money to make money.
     
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    have some patience, don't push it too hard.
    I was very aggressive when it comes to SEO :D i still am
     
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    money makes money. So you need to spend if you want to make good income
     
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    Multiple projects is the worst thing to do when just starting, far better to concentrate on one thing at a time
     
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  11. asawako

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    That is what I would've thought, based on logic. However, in my experience and that of a few friends, success came because we tried so many different things and put so much out there. Most things failed, but by sheer numbers, some succeeded. Then I was able to focus in on what succeeded and learn from what failed. For quite some time I focused only on one thing and poured all of my time and energy into it and got nowhere. Lots and lots of action, trying lots and lots of things...it's a numbers game, because of course many things won't succeed.

    But I agree with the importance of laser-like focus, but only once you know you have a winner on your hands.
     
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    Ok, but it can be expensive way to learn.
     
  13. asawako

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    Haha, that's true, no arguments there :)
     
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    I'm allergic to connotation of "project" in BHW. Why? Because its overused, and project should mean something big. Correct me if im wrong. People around here mainly focus on small simple tasks with no more than few steps involved. I would call it gig if its producing money, or experiment if its still growing and converging to break-even point.
     
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    It is allowed to call them small projects lol!
     
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    But its still overqualification. When someone says project, i have a picture of software development+marketing+sales, construction of bridge, or something that includes lots of creative work. But today everything is a project, even if its simple grind, quickie hustle, or something boring and repetitive that can be pulled in less than 24 hours. Maybe its just me, i always see projects as engineering level creative work.
     
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    It was only a joke, come on
     
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  18. imjs

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    Not true at all. I'm been making decent money on IM since 2012. I spent 0$ investment on my first journey. And then used the money I made from that and invested into other journies. So since I started I have only invested money that I previously made from IM. I live in Sweden so I got 50% taxes on my profits and I'm still one of the probably 1-5% on this forum who actually can make a living with IM. On the other side, I knew a lot of people who started around the same time as me back in 2012 and invested hundreds of $ and never made any profits.

    So no, you don't need money to be able to make money when you are starting out. Sure you will need money to make big money, but you don't need money to get started and make a few $$$. And if spending when you are just starting out there is a high chance you are spending money you will never get back (since probably 90% of everybody who tries IM fails). So yes, sure money helps. But you don't need to invest to make some, that is completely incorrect (if it was correct then I would not be here).

    So I still stand by with my advice: Don't spend until you earn - i.e start small, make a few bucks and reinvest that. Keep your investments low when you starting out so you can reach ROI (return on investment) asap. build things up step by step and avoid the risk over overinvesting when you have no clue if you will get it back or not. When you then got more experience and are better at telling when it is time to invest and when it is not - that is when you start investing.

    At least that is my advice and my opinion :)
     
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  19. jaychems

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    I agree 1000%% most people get stuck in the knowledge collection cycle and forget to implement what they are learning day by day. knowledge without practice makes it all dull.
     
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    No pain no gain.

    No loss no profit.

    Bingo Billy :)
     
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