Adobe Creative Suite CS4 launch - Boo-hoo! Only for Windows...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by themagician, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. themagician

    themagician Regular Member

    Mar 25, 2008
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    Brit in Thailand
    '...For all graphic designers, this is what we've been waiting for:

    Nothing much happens, Black or White Hat unless you have a website/s and so this is of interest to everyone.

    Coming in at $2,499 this is the only graphics suite I use or need and that goes for anyone.

    In a total reversal of what Windows and Macintosh users might expect, Adobe Creative Suite 4 will include 64-bit support for the Windows platform, but not for Mac.

    Mac OS X users probably won't get 64-bit support until CS5, the subsequent release of the graphics editing software, according to John Nack, Adobe's Photoshop product manager.

    Nack attributes this unanticipated state of affairs to Apple's decision last year to halt development of 64-bit support for Carbon, a move which he says took Adobe and third-party developers by surprise. Adobe did make CS3 Intel-compatible, but kept Carbon as its core architecture.

    "At the WWDC show last June, [Adobe and] other developers learned that Apple had decided to stop their Carbon 64 efforts. This means that 64-bit Mac apps need to be written to use Cocoa [instead of] Carbon," the product manager wrote in a recent blog entry.

    "We'll need to rewrite large parts of Photoshop and its plug-ins (potentially affecting over a million lines of code) to move it from Carbon to Cocoa."

    As Nack sees it, 64-bit support in Photoshop will offer the biggest speed advantages for working with massive images on systems with RAM of about 32GB and up. However, normal users could see an 8% to 12% performance increase when using 64-bit versions of Adobe's software compared to 32-bit copies.

    That means Mac OS X users won't be able to take advantage of the performance gains in CS4, and those working with massive images will likely need to use Windows until CS5 is released further down the road.

    Ironically, when Photoshop was initially released back in 1988, the software was available for Macintosh only. The product didn't even ship for Microsoft's platform until 1992, when Adobe ported Photoshop 2.0 to Windows'.

  2. PhiltheBear

    PhiltheBear Junior Member

    Feb 17, 2008
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    Well, that will just mean that graphic designers will have to start using proper computers.:eek:

    For Adobe it's a no-brainer - lots more PCs than Macs - shortage of cash in the market place - where else are they going to sell it? I'm only amazed they didn't do it a long time ago.
  3. rhino

    rhino Junior Member

    Jun 3, 2008
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    crazy netropeneur
    Bronx Zoo, USA
    Macs have been evolving toward the PC for a they are sporting Intel chips, PCI video cards, even ram is compatible! I upgraded my Gateway Laptop with a 'mac' fine.

    in the end the market control the product, but after a few months I will be surprised if they do not come out with something 'better' for the Mac crowd.

  4. Jaz

    Jaz Regular Member

    Apr 28, 2008
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    On the Highway To Hell
    Sweet cant wait for the crack.
  5. luckykittypurrpurr

    luckykittypurrpurr Registered Member

    Aug 20, 2008
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    i remember having 3.0 which was the first photoshop that came with diskette and cd! i would pop that baby into my lime green gumdrop looking g3 mac and go to town. mudging and spray painting anything i could find :D it was nice having something to do since "eworld" went under and my slow dial up made aol extremely painful. i had a "donkey kong" n64 which was lime green to match my mac too, and one of those blow up chairs that was lime green. everything HAD to match my mac :D

    no but seriously, im a big mac fan :D and im outraged! i just have 6.0 and was considering buying suite, thus brought me to this thread...

    total bs adobe is in bed with big brother... :(

    Last edited: Dec 7, 2008
  6. comparco

    comparco Regular Member

    Feb 22, 2008
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    trying to make a living online
    Did anybody manage to install this on a PC. I cannot install any CS3 or 4 on my pc now.

    g00gle cs3 or 4 fails to install and you will get pages of users with no hair left and a PC lying smashed in their backyard.

    I have tried everything, but ad0be seems to be able to write awesome software and crap installers.

    Anybody got any help