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About to finish college and... Dilemma.

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  1. houstonas

    houstonas Registered Member

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    A bit of read for you guys.

    21yo here. I know there are a lot of people who have more life experience than me and could give me a great advice on life.

    Moved to Ireland from Eastern Europe 5 years ago, finished high-school and got in to college. Now this is my 3rd year in college. I've got one more year to go, but I plan on dropping out, so far none of those years helped me in my life (go to college they said). Except that it got me in to photography (it was a module for a year) and I'll get that piece of paper that says "You have a degree, good job".

    As I mentioned I got in to photography(mainly event photography), now I get hired for pretty good gigs and it pays well, but not well enough.

    I've been in IM for a while now, made some buck, enough to stop asking my parents for shit, but not enough for full time income, so I could move out and stuff like that.

    I really believed that creating something out of nothing was my passion and my drive, but over last few weeks, started realizing that this isn't going to bring me tons of money, considering that everybody is a photographer these days(you can take great photos with fucking iPhone 6), pro photographers might be obsolete in next 10 years or so...

    As much as I love taking photos(which I love to the fucking bone), it's Ireland, not too much potential when it comes to photography, plus not many hot chicks and weather sucks.

    I think that I can do photography just part time(considering I work at night, 3-4 hours) and I can fully dedicate myself towards IM during the day, get that cash flow going. Once there is a cash flow, the possibilities just open up...

    I never really had much support from anyone when it came to photography or IM, even my parents were kinda against it, but not until they saw that it's possible to make a living out of it. I learned everything myself and ALWAYS said YES to an opportunity, considering me having a sick work ethic, I can work 16 hours a day without a problem, because I know whats on the other side...

    TL;DR - I WANNA DROP OUT OF COLLEGE AND HUSTLE TO MAKE SIX FIGURES.

    Just as I wrote this, I started to think that photography is my passion, but money is my drive and motivation.

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    Should I take the leap of faith?
     
  2. LostConnection

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    I wouldn't, with just a year to go, might end up regretting it later on in life. But then again, it's your choice. In today's world companies like people with degrees better (which is sh*t in my opinion), but hey, that's life.

    You can fit both IM and photography alongside your studies in your final year. Graduate with a degree and hop into full time IM (by then you'll have built yourself a nice bunch of things that make you money).
     
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  3. houstonas

    houstonas Registered Member

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    Appreciate it man.

    I totally forgot to mention that I'd still get a BA degree after this year lol... It would be just "Ordinary Degree" not "Honors Degree", thanks to Irish government. That being said will I ever use my degree if I'm planning to launch a couple blogs and websites (just an example) to make money from them and when it comes to photography people don't even care about degrees.
     
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    I made something out of nothing, made my whole life worth something. Don't give up My student kid, it's worth it.
     
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    Hi,

    I would suggest to stick with it. I am in college too (3rd year also in Computer Science) and I have to say that I absolutely hate it. More than 95% of the classes are pure bullcrap that I can dig from google in less than an hour. I have mostly old teachers with out of date information that is absolutely useless ( one of my teachers died early this year may God have mercy on his soul ). I am constantly thinking about dropping out..

    But:
    Here ( in Romania ), my degree is worth around 1000$ as first salary ( with 1 year experience gained throughout the college)
    You can score a decent job even if you barely passed the exams
    The working hours are fixed: 9 to 5 - 4/5 hours a day for IM is not enough but it is a start
    The experience gained can help a lot in case you want to open a firm offline

    Just my 2 cents.

    Keep working hard and you will make it!
    M
     
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  6. houstonas

    houstonas Registered Member

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    Well there's a difference between Romania and Ireland heh.

    Appreciate for the input.
     
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    You are getting antsy to get out in the world and make your mark.
    But you feel like college is holding you back. It my be laborious now,
    but it will be worst if you try to go back later in life. Focus on FINISHING.
    You are so close.
     
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    OP,

    College is your number one priority. Period.


    Randybishop,

    I don't know why I can't concentrate on what you have written, its either the boobs in the photo or the color of writing. :D
     
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  9. itsromanorc

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    Firstly think about it carefully, then make your decision. We can't really tell you want to do, it's your life and we can only "advise"

    As for doing IM, it's possible you can hit it big but i would still suggest having a degree or such behind your name incase one day you feel this isn't for you or you're not making good amount of money.

    I'm a law student, dude I feel overwhelmed at times and just want to quit as business was my main passion really.. anyways!, like many others said, don't make a decision you might regret later. Try and motivate yourself, don't compare yourself to anyone else and move to another place if needed to get inspiration.

    Goodluck!
     
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  10. houstonas

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    Appreciate for the input Sir.

    love this :)

    That's all I'm doing, just seeking an advice.
     
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  11. Capo Dei Capi

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    Couldn't you use the degree to charge people more if you decide to sell some kind of local seo services?
     
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    I've been doing graphic design, web design & photography for different clients.

    Just yesterday I confirmed making a website for a new local client.

    None of them asked me about my degree, all I did is showed my previous work.

    Tho I never did any SEO for any clients myself.
     
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    This guy got a point there. I dont know about Ireland, but in Germany you can charge alot more if you have a degree.
    Also you might regret when dropping off college now, its just one year man, you can do that.
    Nowadays its all about degrees, its hard to get a well paid job without education, even though you might have good references.
     
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  14. mickyfu

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    See where you are coming from, every time I hire someone to do SEO, I always ask them for their piece of bog roll, sorry I mean degree certificate.

    In the UK a degree is worthless, they are far more into giving back door jobs to down and out fucking retards because mummy or daddy works there.
     
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    Do what you want to do and don't look back. If you want to hustle, let it be. At least 5-10 years down the road you'll have no one to blame but yourself for the decisions you have made rather than someone making them for you.
     
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  16. Capo Dei Capi

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    Its like that in America for local businesses as well, so many people think that having a degree makes someone more knowledgable about a subject when it comes to anything related to computer and internet industry.


    So people in the UK don't fall for having a degree marketing trick?
     
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    I certainly don't, marketing is marketing, not SEO. You see the people I know who have marketing degrees are my account managers. They are the people who mither me to put their links at the top of my websites, that is all their degree is worth.

    My job is to make maximum money out of my traffic. My account managers can blow all their shit at me they like, if their brand does not convert, it gets a lesser place.

    I only deal with my account manager in one way, and that is if they offer me something that money cannot buy.

    Ever asked someone for a degree certificate before they touched your website? I certainly have not. I know what ranks what I need to rank, and I buy what I need to rank my sites off several people. Simple as. For instance I know that if I use this http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ngine-optimization-service-bhw-you-ready.html this http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...twork-stellar-quality-affordable-pricing.html and this http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-domains-50-discount-review-copy-25-slot.html once or twice I am going to rank certain keywords that will make me 18k a month. I don't need some snotty jumped up degreed lad to tell me he can rank his website with his worthless degree.

    I could honestly add every person I actually know has a degree together, and they will not take as much money as I do. I am self taught with one aim in life, and that is to take money, money that has no limits. I do not need a degree or education for that. IM is a passion, nothing else.
     
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    STAY in school and FINISH WHAT YOU'VE STARTED! You will thank yourself years later. I'm twice+ your age and wish someone would have told me this when I was your age!

    And another thing...STICK TO YOUR PASSION! Do NOT give up on photography to just chase $$ in IM. The truth is that with some creativity, hard work, and a lucky break somewhere, you ABSOLUTELY will be able to make a great living with your passion.

    Doing "whatever" to make money is fine and dandy and of course, sometimes is very necessary, however, if you believe you can make good money doing what you "love", then BY ALL MEANS don't lose sight of that or stop doing it! You will be twice as happy as (at least) than chasing $$ doing something you could care less about. It's understandable if you have to do both for "x" amount of time, but DO NOT stop doing what you love and if possible spend the majority of the time doing that.

    NOW is the time to in your life to pursue that kind of stuff. You're young and free and do not have any major responsibilities. Chase your dreams. Especially the ones you are MOST passionate about. You may just be incredibly surprised to find out that you make a lot more doing what you love vs. doing what you or others "think" will make you money.

    Choose wisely. Best of luck to you!

    Con
     
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    stay in school man.
     
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    I made my first 6 figures while I was IN college. Guess what, I finished and got 2 degrees. IM full time now, but if shit hits the fan, I always have a backup. IMers should be analytical, what you are doing is just plain stupid.
     
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