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a website with almost no backlinks is ranking higher than a site>1k high quality links.

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by hollypham, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. hollypham

    hollypham Junior Member

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    Hello BHWers:
    I am a newbie on this forum, and if i ask repetitive questions, i apologize.
    a website with almost no backlinks is ranking higher than a site>1k high quality links.
    Both have really good onsite SEO work done
    Both are about the same age: 10 years
    Social signals are about the same. ( ex. facebook likes, twitter follows...)
    The keywords are medium competitiveness.
    **Both of these websites are on the first page, and the first websites is consistently ranked higher than many other established sites for many competitive keywords! I have pulled report from SEMRUSH, SEO majestic ... it doesnt make any sense, because I thought backlinks were important?

    Could any one tell me any other reasons I might miss as the first website is ranking higher than then second one?
    Thank you !
     
  2. Automated

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    Better content. Better user experience. Its not about quantity...
     
  3. hollypham

    hollypham Junior Member

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    to automated: they do not have better content in my opinion as the others have blogs attached to their product page: user experience of the other site is also way better ... this is why i am asking. is there any techniques here that I am missing? thanks
     
  4. alanwalkerz

    alanwalkerz Newbie

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    Hidden backlinks that crawlers cannot see is usually the answer. Try searching the ranking keyword on google using its bare url and you will see where they have some of their links coming from.
     
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    jacker818 Power Member

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    I agree with Automated, Must have better quality. I have sites just like this lol.
     
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    cpafreak Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    These days CTR plays important role. I think the higher ranking site might be having high click through rate than the one with backlinks.
     
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    Think about it, would you rather have 10 rotten oranges or 3 really tasty, ripe ones? Quality>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quantity.
     
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    They just have a strong hidden PBN. nothing new.
     
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  9. hollypham

    hollypham Junior Member

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    To Tayax: This must be it! Thank you for the enligtenment!

    *** To all: Is there a way to tell what backlinks or PBN the other site is using or if they use htaccess that is not possible to tell?
    My other question is even though this is posted in the white hat category, but would this technique considered kind of black ?

    Thank you to you all, though I believe quality content is what Matt Cutts wants us to believe because this website I am seeing is awful in terms of content compared to others on 2 3 4 5 .. n page, and it is ranking. Thanks again for all of your input.
     
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  10. laur.laurix

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    Better at hidding PBN links.

     
  11. zorga35

    zorga35 Registered Member

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    Several reasons for this. Firstly, the site could have many links on PBN's that have blocked crawlers so they won't show up on majestic or ahrefs. Secondly, the site might have better structure, content, on page optimization and faster loading times. Its also possible that the few links this site has might be very high authority. Its not about quantity, but rather quality of links.