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Stock market crashes are good for investors. You can make money from owning bonds and some stocks get sold off so much that they become insanely undervalued.

As long as your not holding stocks that are crazy overvalued then a market crash is not a big issue. It presents countless oppertuopport to buy some great stocks at a discount.

Trying to time or predict the market is pointless as stocks go up long term so if you just hold and buy more on the dip you'll still make money.
Real value investor, I see.
 

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lol m8 this dude is 100 yrs old do you think he knows what is happening right now? too old fam too old

a) That 100 y.o. grandpa* is (not was) one of the biggest insiders.

b) It's not his prediction. It's somebody's else's prediction.

* and if you think the "gentle grandpa" image isn't an intentionally well-polished theater image he's created and pushed, I have a bridge to sell you.
 

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That one to Brooklyn? Great investment and a good return over a 30 year period.

How much are you looking for?

I don't think we'll have a problem settling for the price, but I need to make sure you have the right intentions for the bridge first, it was my first bridge and I'm emotionally invested in its longevity - wouldn't want to see it scrapped.
 

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Yep, even go into asset plays/deep value investing. Lots of money to be made in Net Net stocks during crashes. Often cash per share can be higher than stock price. Gives a good margin of safety.
That’s pretty interesting. I read “The Intelligent Investor”, and it seems that is one of the best ways to invest.

The book is a bit outdated though. Have you found big returns on value investing? I, personally, don’t have much experience, but want to start.
 

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I'm not that concerned. Sites like Fool and others, even huge news sites, use random indicators to try and predict stock market doomsday. Eventually someone will be right, but for now I'm not going to worry about what I can't change.

Keep a percentage of your savings in a standard savings account, have an emergency fund and a steady paycheck, and diversify your holdings, and you can weather most any financial storm.

Today is my 28th birthday. I made it a goal to try and not stress out about things I have no control over. The overall market is one of those things. All I can control is the state of my own portfolio, and right now I'm about 40% savings, 20% Robinhood tech stocks, and 40% index funds/401k's. I'll take it!

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Keep in mind there is also $12,000 of margin in that total.

And then a good bit in Vanguard index funds across an VG brokerage and a few 401k's that are 100% VXXXX funds.


@Sherb, congrats on your birthday, good to see you investing in what you are comfortable with but I would say you are still a young guy and could afford to take a little more risk. After 30 lower the risk and at 40 look at safe bets.
Wish I had taken more risk at an earlier age, my pension took a beating a few years ago and only now slowly turning things around.

Damn it, I am 20 years older than you, just thinking about being 28 again gives me a boner.
 

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They simply print more money when the crash gets close. After 2008 all they have to do is print more money for banks and the banks buy the stock market dip using that money, since everyone let them bail banks out in 2008, now it's become routine to do so continuously via programs like "quantitative easing". They did it after the Brexit vote, they do it all the time when the market crashes, just print free money for banks.

Everyone is working 100X more than in 1980 because your money isn't worth shit any more, millenials can't even afford half a car but 8 people who own banks own 51% of the world's wealth. Why? Because they are allowed to print money, duh!

The only way to crash this system is if everyone realizes they're being robbed by the bankers and suddenly the new generation no longer agrees to work 10X more than the previous for the same money.

If people don't revolt, then the markets won't crash, because for example China just fell 3% overnight, the Chinese central bank announced they're gona print hundreds of billions of Yuan. They take all that Yuan and buy stocks and the market's come back up. Only problem is the previous investors now own the same amount of a currency that isn't worth what it was last night.

The present day banking system is a ponzi scheme. If people can't see that then they deserve to get robbed.
So, do you think cryptos/BTC is here for long term @bartosimpsonio ? because government/banks can't control/print BTC [Bitcoins] and only 21 million BTC will be in existence.
Then we don't have to revolt sir ;).
 

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That’s pretty interesting. I read “The Intelligent Investor”, and it seems that is one of the best ways to invest.

The book is a bit outdated though. Have you found big returns on value investing? I, personally, don’t have much experience, but want to start.

Peter Lynch's books are the best investing books IMO. I am a big believer of his philosophy. Invest simple. I look for companies with good balance sheets and consistent earnings growth.

The PEG Ratio is incredibly useful at analysing valuation.

I have different screen types but if I'm looking for growth stocks then I'll usually look for the following:

  • PEG <= 1
  • Past 5 Year EPS AVG. 10-25%
  • Debt/Equity <= 1
  • Low (ideally <60%) institutional ownership
  • Healthy balance sheet
  • Consistent growth in earnings
I also have other screens for different types say asset plays etc. Another good tip is to set up Google Alerts or something similar for terms like:
  • Growth Stocks
  • Value Stocks
  • Undervalued Stocks
  • Deep Value Stocks
  • Fast Growth Stocks
  • Net Net Stocks
  • Etc. Etc.
I can then read the articles and see their quick analysis and see if it's something worth looking at further. I'm a big fan of high FCF companies as well. Nothing beats a business that churns out cash with low operational expenses, such as equipment improvements etc. that steel plants have.
 

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It’s true and largely due to trumps policies. The same policies he is implementing now are partly to blame for the recession prior.

I'm not going to remove your post but I'll take it as a chance to remind the politics rule.
 

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Keep in mind there is also $12,000 of margin in that total.

And then a good bit in Vanguard index funds across an VG brokerage and a few 401k's that are 100% VXXXX funds.

Happy birthday!

Also, I might've missed it, but what app do you use to trade?
 

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you know how I invest in stocks? I google it. Look at the graph. if the graph has been going up consistently for 5 years I buy it. Been investing since 2015 and I'm up about 30% so I think it's working out pretty good so far haha. I usually have a good feeling about the company though. Like I know what they do and believe in it. Not a wise investor.
 

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How does that have anything to do with politics?

If you can't see how this can turn into a flame-war, there's not much that I can say but let's give it a try.

Suppose I quote your post and say that you know fuck all because Obama this and that and blah blah and here's some links for this and for that and ho ho ho I have a palantir and can see the future, suck it (in more gentle terms).

What do you think will happen next, as everybody and their cat gets to chime in? There's a really good reason why politics is a no-go here. There's Reddit for that.
 
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