AffGuy08
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- Nov 14, 2008
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Hi everyone,
I was recently blackmailed by one of bhw member, no idea who is he but he got my contact from a thread in bhw. So he blackmailed me for "wasting" his time when a deal between both of us was no deal at the end. He got all my information on the net and my posts and end up trying his best to look good.
I played the game, got his paypal id and sent a scam report to paypal with all the proof. So nailed you blackmailer!
Here are our conversation :
lonelylucy08: however then once it is sent you will have to pay the rest of the money for the list to send another email
mytopblogspace: what is ur small deposit like?
lonelylucy08: that is fair for both of us then
lonelylucy08: $150.... so then you will have to pay $300 afterwards
mytopblogspace: ok u know what
mytopblogspace: let's cut this deal off, i am not interested in the list.
lonelylucy08: because you just want it for free?
mytopblogspace: if u thk one test email will make me rich and run away then keep the list, i don't need it.
mytopblogspace: plus makes me wonder if u can make $$ good with it, then why selling to me for $450?
lonelylucy08: because it is nearly christmas and i need the money
mytopblogspace: then trust people
mytopblogspace: and if u are sincere
lonelylucy08: i cannot wait for my affiliate companies to pay me in 1 or 2 months time
mytopblogspace: ur god will help u out
mytopblogspace: simple as that
mytopblogspace: u helped me to setup the hosting and email software
lonelylucy08: that is why i have offered the deposit
mytopblogspace: and if the email test works
lonelylucy08: $150 is a small price to ask
mytopblogspace: i will help u out by buying it
mytopblogspace: even for $500 - $700 depends on the response rate
mytopblogspace: i don't believe in small deposit so please let me know if u can send a test email without any deposit i will do it.
lonelylucy08: nope i offer only the small deposit option.... if you choose not then no
mytopblogspace: ok fine
lonelylucy08: your hosting account is being suspended now as i feel you have no need for it
lonelylucy08: okay?
mytopblogspace: suspended for what?!
mytopblogspace: i paid for a month
mytopblogspace: u are doing this just because i am not buying your email list?
mytopblogspace: i have 100K emails in the hosting
mytopblogspace: so why i don't need it?
lonelylucy08: your hosting fee will cover my time and the hosting companies time..... and wasting my time with not wanting to buy the email list and wanting it for free
mytopblogspace: but i bought it
mytopblogspace: u cannot simply suspend my account for this reason
mytopblogspace: plus i didn't want it for free, i just want to test it out.
lonelylucy08: and you cannot simply waste my time
mytopblogspace: what is wrong with you?
mytopblogspace: i wasted ur time?
lonelylucy08: yes
lonelylucy08: over 6 hours of it
lonelylucy08: 6 hours to me = $400+
mytopblogspace: hw about my time on dealing with u + uploading the emails to the server?
mytopblogspace: u sound lame
mytopblogspace: so stop it
mytopblogspace: so what is ur final decision cse i need to take some actions againts u and ur company if u suspend my account.
mytopblogspace: ok so being idle shows how low u can get.
lonelylucy08: I am currently idle.
mytopblogspace: i will check my account every day
mytopblogspace: and if the cron doesn't work or my account suspended i will get a dispute + report you to sites that tell others about scammers like u.
mytopblogspace: i guess that will hurt u more than my $21 investment right? goodluck.
lonelylucy08: you dont even know who i am
lonelylucy08: and the dispute cannot work
mytopblogspace: oh really?
mytopblogspace: i will make u lose more than $21 for sure.
lonelylucy08: hows that then?
lonelylucy08: come on tell me
mytopblogspace: just watch as u will see ur site + hosting will get on some top scam lists
lonelylucy08: its not mine
lonelylucy08: lol
mytopblogspace: yeah but u can tell ur fren that admin of the site
mytopblogspace: he will lose his reputation + customers because of ur stupidity.
lonelylucy08: okay and if that happens then the 100k email list will be shared with the world and your paypal blocked
lonelylucy08: you have no internet experience
lonelylucy08: at all
lonelylucy08: i have 6 years
mytopblogspace: 100K emails are not mine
mytopblogspace: so u can do what u wnat with it
lonelylucy08: exactly your friend will not be hapy
mytopblogspace: i just got 500K emails from my friend
mytopblogspace: luckily i didn't buy from u
mytopblogspace: because he had the emails with can spam act
lonelylucy08: ahh i should just leave the hosting and wait for you to go to jail then
mytopblogspace: really?
mytopblogspace: lol
mytopblogspace: im scared
lonelylucy08: remember i have all your contact details
lonelylucy08: address... home number
lonelylucy08: full name
lonelylucy08: one call and your gone
mytopblogspace: really?
lonelylucy08: yep
mytopblogspace: what makes u thk i will use my main paypal for stuff like this?
mytopblogspace: that is not even my paypal account, my friend's
lonelylucy08: you are only allowed one paypal account.... one phone call and they will check ip records and ban all accounts
mytopblogspace: see one paypal account per hse hold
mytopblogspace: that is how it was done
lonelylucy08: nope is per person
mytopblogspace: anyways u can do what u want
lonelylucy08: get your facts right
lonelylucy08: oh thanks really?
mytopblogspace: as i said that paypal doesn't belong to me
lonelylucy08: legal proof that i can do whatever i like??
mytopblogspace: i have my own paypal.
mytopblogspace: that paypal belongs to my friend and he paid for the hosting. more like a partner.
mytopblogspace: u doing all this because of the list?
mytopblogspace: i really can't believe there are people that can go that low for all that.
lonelylucy08: no i am doing it for your stupidty... lies... to teach you a lesson.... and because i can.... oh and because you wasted alot of my time for nothing
mytopblogspace: my lies?
mytopblogspace: can u tell me what i lied?
mytopblogspace: would really like to know that.
lonelylucy08: bhw account -> banned
lonelylucy08: youtube account -> banned
lonelylucy08: sitepronews account -> banned
lonelylucy08: exchangemoneyforum account -> banned
lonelylucy08: blogspot site -> banned
lonelylucy08: talkgold -> banned
lonelylucy08: digitalpoint account -> banned
lonelylucy08: mylot account -> banned
lonelylucy08: makemoneykingdom account -> banned
lonelylucy08: do i need to go on??
mytopblogspace: banned?
mytopblogspace: for?
lonelylucy08: will be by the end of tonight
lonelylucy08: for.....
mytopblogspace: tell me what i lied?
lonelylucy08: your stupidty... lies... to teach you a lesson.... and because i can.... oh and because you wasted alot of my time for nothing
mytopblogspace: i didn't lie a single thing
mytopblogspace: all i wanted to do was a good deal
mytopblogspace: and u don't trust me
lonelylucy08: oh i will buy your list yes..... oh noo i dont want it anymore..... oh give it to me for free.... oh i suck mens dick suck mine please and make money for me too...... ohhh im going to do this to you but now i dont want to because you can do alot more..... ohhh i never lie
lonelylucy08: ring any bells??
mytopblogspace: u call that lies?
lonelylucy08: wish i had seen were you were from before
lonelylucy08: Malaysia
mytopblogspace: ya from malaysia
mytopblogspace: u are checking my ip so what's up wit that?
lonelylucy08: to report it to your country for spamming in a few months time
lonelylucy08:
lonelylucy08: just collecting everything i can about you
mytopblogspace: me spamming?
mytopblogspace: i didn't spam anyone and infact u can see that i was going to stop this email marketing.
lonelylucy08: intent to spam
mytopblogspace: intent?
lonelylucy08: and your only 24
mytopblogspace: 23
lonelylucy08: explains alot
mytopblogspace: man what u going to do?>
mytopblogspace: ruin my life with all that banning?
lonelylucy08: you really should be more carefull what information you leave online
mytopblogspace: i am not
mytopblogspace: because i don't do anythg illegal
lonelylucy08: member of cpalead
lonelylucy08: im good friends with the owner
mytopblogspace: i just wished u could trust me in sending the test email
mytopblogspace: and u started all this.
mytopblogspace: ya i am with them.
lonelylucy08: i will trust you with a deposit
lonelylucy08: ahh and you use squidoo
mytopblogspace: ya
mytopblogspace: i am with a lot of sites
mytopblogspace: some i don't remember
lonelylucy08: sorry im just preparing my list of account names.... emails.... personal details.... all to get you banned
lonelylucy08: and you dont have any idea who i am
mytopblogspace: maybe i have now
lonelylucy08: who then?
lonelylucy08: come on quick quick
mytopblogspace: no idea
lonelylucy08: lol exactly
mytopblogspace: but i can see what u are capable to do.
lonelylucy08: good good
lonelylucy08: and you will enjoy it yea?
mytopblogspace: nope
lonelylucy08: then you should not fuck with me and waste my time and lie and everything else
mytopblogspace: i didn't lie for god sake
mytopblogspace: i really want to buy the list
lonelylucy08: wanted*
lonelylucy08: please correct yourself and stop lying
mytopblogspace: yeah
mytopblogspace: i still can buy
lonelylucy08: there you go that was a lie
mytopblogspace: but with a test email.
lonelylucy08: i WANT to buy the list..... but yet you will not
mytopblogspace: can u send a test email?
lonelylucy08: and no no test email..... you can now buy the list in exchange for me causing no damage to your online business
lonelylucy08: and causing you great loss in earnings
lonelylucy08: your hostgator affiliate account will also be banned
lonelylucy08: how much cash do you have with them??
mytopblogspace: $50
lonelylucy08: okay so then i have to make you loose another $400 at least
lonelylucy08: then i may stop
lonelylucy08: oh and by the way you sound like a gay
lonelylucy08:
mytopblogspace: so what u want me to do?
lonelylucy08: you tell me
lonelylucy08: what are you going to do for me that will mean i will not wreck your online businesses and money making
lonelylucy08: i beleive my friend is talking to you.... i have warned him about you but maybe you will find him more 'business' like
lonelylucy08: if you do not give me or him anything of value then wave goodbye to your internet money
mytopblogspace: im back
lonelylucy08: and?
mytopblogspace: how much u want?
lonelylucy08: for what?
mytopblogspace: to settle this up
lonelylucy08: thats up to you.... make me an offer you think is reasonable for me not to wreck your online business
mytopblogspace: how about $100?
lonelylucy08: nah lol i can do alot more damage that that
lonelylucy08: than that*
mytopblogspace: how much then?
mytopblogspace: my net is kinda slow and weak, so please do this fast before i get dc
lonelylucy08: and you want the list aswell included in this price or what?
mytopblogspace: no i don't need the list.
lonelylucy08: ok
mytopblogspace: i want u to just leave me alone and don't harm my net business..
lonelylucy08: let me work out how many hours i have wasted with you
mytopblogspace: just tell me a price and ur paypal id, i will pay today and finish this up.
lonelylucy08: okay
lonelylucy08: 6 hours approx
lonelylucy08: $30 an hour
lonelylucy08: that makes $180
lonelylucy08: but call it $150 and i will leave you alone
mytopblogspace: ok $150
lonelylucy08: my paypal id is [email protected] send it as a service
lonelylucy08: or goods and say its digital delivery in the notes
lonelylucy08: i dont want you requesting a chareback afterwards
mytopblogspace: ok
mytopblogspace: will send in 48 hours
lonelylucy08: nope
lonelylucy08: you have 20 minutes to send
lonelylucy08: i dont have time to wait
mytopblogspace: my net is too slow
mytopblogspace: i can only manage to chat
mytopblogspace: not open sites
lonelylucy08: oh well close the chat and do paypal
lonelylucy08: then get a friend to do it
lonelylucy08: you have 20 mins
mytopblogspace: i can't
lonelylucy08: 19 minutes
mytopblogspace: i can send it in 48 hours
mytopblogspace: it is 5 am here
mytopblogspace: sorry
lonelylucy08: and i can get all your accounts banned in 24 hours
lonelylucy08: its your choice
lonelylucy08: 18 minutes
mytopblogspace: ok if u cannot wait then go ahead with ur evil plan to ban my accounts. I hope u enjoy threatening people like this.
lonelylucy08: i hope you enjoy wasting my time
lonelylucy08: and your failure online because of this
mytopblogspace: ok
lonelylucy08: 17 minutes
mytopblogspace: i wil be complaining to paypal if any of my accounts got deleted.
lonelylucy08: and say what??
lonelylucy08: paypal dont care
lonelylucy08: and you have no proof
lonelylucy08: good luck on that one
lonelylucy08: i know your there lol
Guys his paypal id is [email protected] . Hope you guys will do a help in screwing him up.
You got the wrong guy man, if you are reading this thread have some balls and come out admitting it. If you do, your paypal and your other "stuffs" will be safe
I was recently blackmailed by one of bhw member, no idea who is he but he got my contact from a thread in bhw. So he blackmailed me for "wasting" his time when a deal between both of us was no deal at the end. He got all my information on the net and my posts and end up trying his best to look good.
I played the game, got his paypal id and sent a scam report to paypal with all the proof. So nailed you blackmailer!
Here are our conversation :
lonelylucy08: however then once it is sent you will have to pay the rest of the money for the list to send another email
mytopblogspace: what is ur small deposit like?
lonelylucy08: that is fair for both of us then
lonelylucy08: $150.... so then you will have to pay $300 afterwards
mytopblogspace: ok u know what
mytopblogspace: let's cut this deal off, i am not interested in the list.
lonelylucy08: because you just want it for free?
mytopblogspace: if u thk one test email will make me rich and run away then keep the list, i don't need it.
mytopblogspace: plus makes me wonder if u can make $$ good with it, then why selling to me for $450?
lonelylucy08: because it is nearly christmas and i need the money
mytopblogspace: then trust people
mytopblogspace: and if u are sincere
lonelylucy08: i cannot wait for my affiliate companies to pay me in 1 or 2 months time
mytopblogspace: ur god will help u out
mytopblogspace: simple as that
mytopblogspace: u helped me to setup the hosting and email software
lonelylucy08: that is why i have offered the deposit
mytopblogspace: and if the email test works
lonelylucy08: $150 is a small price to ask
mytopblogspace: i will help u out by buying it
mytopblogspace: even for $500 - $700 depends on the response rate
mytopblogspace: i don't believe in small deposit so please let me know if u can send a test email without any deposit i will do it.
lonelylucy08: nope i offer only the small deposit option.... if you choose not then no
mytopblogspace: ok fine
lonelylucy08: your hosting account is being suspended now as i feel you have no need for it
lonelylucy08: okay?
mytopblogspace: suspended for what?!
mytopblogspace: i paid for a month
mytopblogspace: u are doing this just because i am not buying your email list?
mytopblogspace: i have 100K emails in the hosting
mytopblogspace: so why i don't need it?
lonelylucy08: your hosting fee will cover my time and the hosting companies time..... and wasting my time with not wanting to buy the email list and wanting it for free
mytopblogspace: but i bought it
mytopblogspace: u cannot simply suspend my account for this reason
mytopblogspace: plus i didn't want it for free, i just want to test it out.
lonelylucy08: and you cannot simply waste my time
mytopblogspace: what is wrong with you?
mytopblogspace: i wasted ur time?
lonelylucy08: yes
lonelylucy08: over 6 hours of it
lonelylucy08: 6 hours to me = $400+
mytopblogspace: hw about my time on dealing with u + uploading the emails to the server?
mytopblogspace: u sound lame
mytopblogspace: so stop it
mytopblogspace: so what is ur final decision cse i need to take some actions againts u and ur company if u suspend my account.
mytopblogspace: ok so being idle shows how low u can get.
lonelylucy08: I am currently idle.
mytopblogspace: i will check my account every day
mytopblogspace: and if the cron doesn't work or my account suspended i will get a dispute + report you to sites that tell others about scammers like u.
mytopblogspace: i guess that will hurt u more than my $21 investment right? goodluck.
lonelylucy08: you dont even know who i am
lonelylucy08: and the dispute cannot work
mytopblogspace: oh really?
mytopblogspace: i will make u lose more than $21 for sure.
lonelylucy08: hows that then?
lonelylucy08: come on tell me
mytopblogspace: just watch as u will see ur site + hosting will get on some top scam lists
lonelylucy08: its not mine
lonelylucy08: lol
mytopblogspace: yeah but u can tell ur fren that admin of the site
mytopblogspace: he will lose his reputation + customers because of ur stupidity.
lonelylucy08: okay and if that happens then the 100k email list will be shared with the world and your paypal blocked
lonelylucy08: you have no internet experience
lonelylucy08: at all
lonelylucy08: i have 6 years
mytopblogspace: 100K emails are not mine
mytopblogspace: so u can do what u wnat with it
lonelylucy08: exactly your friend will not be hapy
mytopblogspace: i just got 500K emails from my friend
mytopblogspace: luckily i didn't buy from u
mytopblogspace: because he had the emails with can spam act
lonelylucy08: ahh i should just leave the hosting and wait for you to go to jail then
mytopblogspace: really?
mytopblogspace: lol
mytopblogspace: im scared
lonelylucy08: remember i have all your contact details
lonelylucy08: address... home number
lonelylucy08: full name
lonelylucy08: one call and your gone
mytopblogspace: really?
lonelylucy08: yep
mytopblogspace: what makes u thk i will use my main paypal for stuff like this?
mytopblogspace: that is not even my paypal account, my friend's
lonelylucy08: you are only allowed one paypal account.... one phone call and they will check ip records and ban all accounts
mytopblogspace: see one paypal account per hse hold
mytopblogspace: that is how it was done
lonelylucy08: nope is per person
mytopblogspace: anyways u can do what u want
lonelylucy08: get your facts right
lonelylucy08: oh thanks really?
mytopblogspace: as i said that paypal doesn't belong to me
lonelylucy08: legal proof that i can do whatever i like??
mytopblogspace: i have my own paypal.
mytopblogspace: that paypal belongs to my friend and he paid for the hosting. more like a partner.
mytopblogspace: u doing all this because of the list?
mytopblogspace: i really can't believe there are people that can go that low for all that.
lonelylucy08: no i am doing it for your stupidty... lies... to teach you a lesson.... and because i can.... oh and because you wasted alot of my time for nothing
mytopblogspace: my lies?
mytopblogspace: can u tell me what i lied?
mytopblogspace: would really like to know that.
lonelylucy08: bhw account -> banned
lonelylucy08: youtube account -> banned
lonelylucy08: sitepronews account -> banned
lonelylucy08: exchangemoneyforum account -> banned
lonelylucy08: blogspot site -> banned
lonelylucy08: talkgold -> banned
lonelylucy08: digitalpoint account -> banned
lonelylucy08: mylot account -> banned
lonelylucy08: makemoneykingdom account -> banned
lonelylucy08: do i need to go on??
mytopblogspace: banned?
mytopblogspace: for?
lonelylucy08: will be by the end of tonight
lonelylucy08: for.....
mytopblogspace: tell me what i lied?
lonelylucy08: your stupidty... lies... to teach you a lesson.... and because i can.... oh and because you wasted alot of my time for nothing
mytopblogspace: i didn't lie a single thing
mytopblogspace: all i wanted to do was a good deal
mytopblogspace: and u don't trust me
lonelylucy08: oh i will buy your list yes..... oh noo i dont want it anymore..... oh give it to me for free.... oh i suck mens dick suck mine please and make money for me too...... ohhh im going to do this to you but now i dont want to because you can do alot more..... ohhh i never lie
lonelylucy08: ring any bells??
mytopblogspace: u call that lies?
lonelylucy08: wish i had seen were you were from before
lonelylucy08: Malaysia
mytopblogspace: ya from malaysia
mytopblogspace: u are checking my ip so what's up wit that?
lonelylucy08: to report it to your country for spamming in a few months time
lonelylucy08:
lonelylucy08: just collecting everything i can about you
mytopblogspace: me spamming?
mytopblogspace: i didn't spam anyone and infact u can see that i was going to stop this email marketing.
lonelylucy08: intent to spam
mytopblogspace: intent?
lonelylucy08: and your only 24
mytopblogspace: 23
lonelylucy08: explains alot
mytopblogspace: man what u going to do?>
mytopblogspace: ruin my life with all that banning?
lonelylucy08: you really should be more carefull what information you leave online
mytopblogspace: i am not
mytopblogspace: because i don't do anythg illegal
lonelylucy08: member of cpalead
lonelylucy08: im good friends with the owner
mytopblogspace: i just wished u could trust me in sending the test email
mytopblogspace: and u started all this.
mytopblogspace: ya i am with them.
lonelylucy08: i will trust you with a deposit
lonelylucy08: ahh and you use squidoo
mytopblogspace: ya
mytopblogspace: i am with a lot of sites
mytopblogspace: some i don't remember
lonelylucy08: sorry im just preparing my list of account names.... emails.... personal details.... all to get you banned
lonelylucy08: and you dont have any idea who i am
mytopblogspace: maybe i have now
lonelylucy08: who then?
lonelylucy08: come on quick quick
mytopblogspace: no idea
lonelylucy08: lol exactly
mytopblogspace: but i can see what u are capable to do.
lonelylucy08: good good
lonelylucy08: and you will enjoy it yea?
mytopblogspace: nope
lonelylucy08: then you should not fuck with me and waste my time and lie and everything else
mytopblogspace: i didn't lie for god sake
mytopblogspace: i really want to buy the list
lonelylucy08: wanted*
lonelylucy08: please correct yourself and stop lying
mytopblogspace: yeah
mytopblogspace: i still can buy
lonelylucy08: there you go that was a lie
mytopblogspace: but with a test email.
lonelylucy08: i WANT to buy the list..... but yet you will not
mytopblogspace: can u send a test email?
lonelylucy08: and no no test email..... you can now buy the list in exchange for me causing no damage to your online business
lonelylucy08: and causing you great loss in earnings
lonelylucy08: your hostgator affiliate account will also be banned
lonelylucy08: how much cash do you have with them??
mytopblogspace: $50
lonelylucy08: okay so then i have to make you loose another $400 at least
lonelylucy08: then i may stop
lonelylucy08: oh and by the way you sound like a gay
lonelylucy08:
mytopblogspace: so what u want me to do?
lonelylucy08: you tell me
lonelylucy08: what are you going to do for me that will mean i will not wreck your online businesses and money making
lonelylucy08: i beleive my friend is talking to you.... i have warned him about you but maybe you will find him more 'business' like
lonelylucy08: if you do not give me or him anything of value then wave goodbye to your internet money
mytopblogspace: im back
lonelylucy08: and?
mytopblogspace: how much u want?
lonelylucy08: for what?
mytopblogspace: to settle this up
lonelylucy08: thats up to you.... make me an offer you think is reasonable for me not to wreck your online business
mytopblogspace: how about $100?
lonelylucy08: nah lol i can do alot more damage that that
lonelylucy08: than that*
mytopblogspace: how much then?
mytopblogspace: my net is kinda slow and weak, so please do this fast before i get dc
lonelylucy08: and you want the list aswell included in this price or what?
mytopblogspace: no i don't need the list.
lonelylucy08: ok
mytopblogspace: i want u to just leave me alone and don't harm my net business..
lonelylucy08: let me work out how many hours i have wasted with you
mytopblogspace: just tell me a price and ur paypal id, i will pay today and finish this up.
lonelylucy08: okay
lonelylucy08: 6 hours approx
lonelylucy08: $30 an hour
lonelylucy08: that makes $180
lonelylucy08: but call it $150 and i will leave you alone
mytopblogspace: ok $150
lonelylucy08: my paypal id is [email protected] send it as a service
lonelylucy08: or goods and say its digital delivery in the notes
lonelylucy08: i dont want you requesting a chareback afterwards
mytopblogspace: ok
mytopblogspace: will send in 48 hours
lonelylucy08: nope
lonelylucy08: you have 20 minutes to send
lonelylucy08: i dont have time to wait
mytopblogspace: my net is too slow
mytopblogspace: i can only manage to chat
mytopblogspace: not open sites
lonelylucy08: oh well close the chat and do paypal
lonelylucy08: then get a friend to do it
lonelylucy08: you have 20 mins
mytopblogspace: i can't
lonelylucy08: 19 minutes
mytopblogspace: i can send it in 48 hours
mytopblogspace: it is 5 am here
mytopblogspace: sorry
lonelylucy08: and i can get all your accounts banned in 24 hours
lonelylucy08: its your choice
lonelylucy08: 18 minutes
mytopblogspace: ok if u cannot wait then go ahead with ur evil plan to ban my accounts. I hope u enjoy threatening people like this.
lonelylucy08: i hope you enjoy wasting my time
lonelylucy08: and your failure online because of this
mytopblogspace: ok
lonelylucy08: 17 minutes
mytopblogspace: i wil be complaining to paypal if any of my accounts got deleted.
lonelylucy08: and say what??
lonelylucy08: paypal dont care
lonelylucy08: and you have no proof
lonelylucy08: good luck on that one
lonelylucy08: i know your there lol
Guys his paypal id is [email protected] . Hope you guys will do a help in screwing him up.
You got the wrong guy man, if you are reading this thread have some balls and come out admitting it. If you do, your paypal and your other "stuffs" will be safe