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A rant about writers (and a hidden job offer)

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by BinaryBlues, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. BinaryBlues

    BinaryBlues Registered Member

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    I see so many "plz help me make monies!!1" threads on this forum and others I visit. I get it - we all have to start somewhere. Hell, I really feel for a lot of these people too - like that thread with the guy from Japan. The most common advice I see given to newbies is to do content writing, whether it's the highschool kid with a brain that actually functions or the 34 year old dude who wants to quit the 9-5 and spend more time with his kids. Content writing is where I'd bet a large majority of IMers started out, myself included. It's a great stepping stone.

    Think about it - writing 1,000 words per hour (pretty standard - isn't it?) even at $0.01/word gets you $10 per hour. In your underwear, sitting on your ass. Or you could go slap on a hairnet and a Burger King uniform and bust your ass... and make less per hour.

    So with all this in mind, why in the hell is it so hard to find a decent, dedicated writer? I have a relatively unorthodox job I'm trying to outsource (but still piss easy). It requires the writer be online during the same time I am so we can communicate as they write. I know, that's pretty wild. 2,000 words, 2 hours, $20. Monday through Friday. There's a nice little extra hundred bucks per week, wouldn't you think? Not to mention I've made it clear that 2 hours is just the minimum. They could write for longer.

    Oh boy, and let's take it one step further. Going to get crazy now, stay with me. I don't want to have to paypal this person every single goddamn day. So, just like in the real world, they'd be paid for their efforts twice a month. I just made the heads spin on some fly-by-night writers in south Asia. Even weekly would be acceptable for me at this point. I know what you're thinking too - but I'm not just asking these people to "trust me to pay." I'm looking on freelancing sites (think odesk), where the site acts as a financial intermediary. That being said, I posted a thread up here and so far have had stunningly lackluster results.

    So what's the deal? No hungry writers out there anymore? There was a time in my life when if someone made a similar offer to me I would have wet my pants. Steady, consistent work, consistent pay, not involving cleaning toilets. I realize that $0.01/word is probably the current median pay, and if I was willing to pay $0.02 or .03/word, yeah, I'd find someone that would write, touch my genitals, and brush my teeth for me too. Well, I'm not. It's a reasonable price for basic, easy web content. This is not copywriting or writing press releases.

    I see people writing these long, well thought out "how do I make money" threads, including the sad story. It's starting to remind me of the guy out on the corner holding up a "will work for food" sign, but when you actually offer him a job doing yardwork or whatever, turns out he isn't really that hungry after all.

    EDIT: If any of you folks reading this know a writer you'd like to recommend, please do let me know.
     
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  2. iknowjack

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    no offense i get you, but....what it run into my eye was "just like in real world"
    this aint real world you know...you cant compare this jobs with real world....but i get you, you are the bos, you are paying
    but on other side, you should also understand those who want to be paid. now i know they cant expect to be paid every day, thats ridiculus


    but....like i said, i write this only becouse i think this is not to be compared with real world. the thing you mentioned are ....how to say...one edge (real world paying) and other edge (imeadelty paying)......there is also midle

    we pay here to everyone in advace dont we lol...why ? becouse this aint real workd and there are a lot of scamers

    EVERYONE pays here in advace......so, is you ask me...this aint the correct place to tell how anoying some guys are lol....not the right place man
     
  3. CYBERTRON

    CYBERTRON Regular Member

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    Try posting this job On CL. I would think that the guys here are above that type of work and thats why your not getting a great response.
     
  4. Deviance

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    $0,01 per word for a quality, unique handwritten article is a joke. $10 per hour might be good pay for some Asian countries, but it's not in the US or Europe.


    Other than that, along the lines of what iknowjack said, this isn't the real world.. it's the internet. It's full of scammers here, so naturally people want to get paid asap for their work.
     
  5. bk071

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    Well, there are a lot of them around here ;)

    But the thing is, you gotta pay a little more if you are looking for someone from USA/UK. $1/100 words is more than enough for writers living in countries like India & Pakistan but again quality is compromised sometimes. If you want to hire some native writers, I don't think you'll find the best ones for that wage.

    Just my words though.
    Bk...
     
  6. johnconnor

    johnconnor Regular Member

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    Compared with the part time wage that is paid by lots of employers here in Germany $10 per hour is not that bad actually. If I were a beginner and looking for some quick bucks I'd rather jot down a couple of articles instead working for 4 Euro per hour at Subways or another burger joint...
     
  7. BENNY8877

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    The problem with being a writer (I speak from experience) is although 2 articles an hour will net you $10 an hour unfortunately, writing is something that burns you out quickly. So even though to some people $10 an hour would be reasonable, it would be pretty much impossible to be able to do it for 8 to 10 consecutive hours in order to make $80 to $100 per day. There is not a writer in this world that would be able to consistently churn out 16 to 20 good articles a day without going insane.

    But just like anything you get what you pay for.
     
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  8. bk071

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    You got a point there! I was a writer once and I still remember how hard it used to be writing all the day long.
     
  9. unknownassailant

    unknownassailant Newbie

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    Writing is like singing. Everyone can do it, but few do it well. No one can write a thousand words an hour consistently and produce anything worth reading.

    "Hey, Bob, write me another novel by Friday."

    "Sure, Boss. May I have some wood for the fire"

    "Hell no. Think I'm made of money?"
     
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