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A Quick Guide - Ensuring You Get Paid Your Blackhat Commissions

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by cupid_stunt, May 13, 2009.

  1. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Junior Member

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    I'm seeing more and more posts here of newbie's having no idea where to start with BH, so I thought I'd write a quick guide to covering your tracks to ensure you get paid by your affiliate network.

    As us Black Hatters already know one of the most important parts of doing Blackhat methods is getting paid. So here are some tips & tricks to get you going:

    Covering Your Tracks

    Obviously this is the most important part; blanking or faking the referrer. Networks can see where your traffic is coming from (pretty much the last page your visitors came from) so here are the two easiest options:

    Faking the Referrer (Recommended):

    This allows you to make the referrer appear as your own whitehat landing page and looks entirely legit to Advertisers/Networks.

    There's a tool here to do this (thanks to Brad1001):
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/37204-fake-referrer-cpa.html

    (This is a Wordpress plugin, there's also the standalone version around now too) - So you need to buy a whitehat domain and set up a landing page for the offer you're promoting. If you're making more than a few hundred a day I'd suggest you take the time to making a landing page that looks legit to Network's (like it would actually convert).

    Blanking the Referrer (With DMR):
    The other easy option is to blank the referrer with what's called a double meta-refresh.

    There's a program for it here (thanks to Swiper):
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...le-meta-refresh-generator-blank-referrer.html

    Or alternatively you can write your own code, or do a search for the code here. Be sure to make sure there's code so if the referrer isn't blanked it goes to another page (so there are no leaks). Personally I prefer to fake the referrer as your Affiliate Manager may end up asking you some questions if all your leads come from a blank referrer.

    Another important thing to remember is using private WhoIs on your domains - otherwise your AM could look up all of the domains you own and find you BH sites. I recommend Name.com for domain registration as they offer this feature free.

    Communication Is Key

    Maintaining a good relationship with your Affiliate Manager is important if you plan on earning over a few hundred a day on any one network. I've seen here a lot of people saying they distribute their leads over a number of networks to stay under the radar, but I think earning $250/day in your first month on any one network is fine (so long as your referrer is faked), and much more than this once your AM has trust in you.
    Talk to your AM on AIM or flick them an email every few days to let them know where you're up to. (Don't mention BH stuff obviously), but show them your WH pages and mention some PPC networks you are (apparently) using.

    e.g. "Hey 'TheirName',
    Just thought I'd flick you an email and how my campaigns are going. I've set up a simple LP for your xxxx offer and its going quite well. I'm promoting through Bidvertiser and have a pixel placed for conversion tracking; I will test out some more keywords and do my best to scale up in the upcoming months. Let me know if there're any room for some higher payouts on that offer too, it will no doubt help me to increase daily leads.
    Regards,
    Your Name
    Your Company Name
    "

    If you want you can even get them to place a pixel for you with your Adwords or Yahoo SM tracking so you look legit (or Prosper202 code). (so long as your BH method isn't using your PPC accounts of course).

    Be Professional

    Get a company website. And an email: webmaster@yourcompanywebsite.com

    E.g. XYZMarketing.com

    You can use a template from TemplateMonster (they have some good ones) or pay a designer to make one for you.

    There're some themes here (thanks to CasinoJack)
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...tes-templatemonster-series-15000-18000-a.html

    Just make you own logo etc and edit the template to your liking.

    Definitely don't sign up with a @hotmail.com or @gmail.com email or they will be keeping an eye on your from the start.

    I'd also recommend paying $30/month to get a 1-800 Number too, and actually register your company if you're serious about IM.

    Conversion Ratio

    This is another important one - if your network see your conversion ratio is three times as high as everyone else on the network it raises the red flag big time.

    Ask your AM what the average CR is for the offer you're promoting and stick to that.

    Get some junk traffic from Findology (through your Blanked/Faked link of course) its $1/100 so it's quite expensive, but it's reliable, secure and does the job. Otherwise you could try some cheaper sources seen elsewhere on this forum. (Search ‘Junk Traffic').
    I never bother about the Banner Impressions CTR, I always edit the banner a bit so impressions are not tracked as it's really not worth the extra effort and quite unnecessary.

    Quality Leads

    If all your leads are shit sooner or later you will get scrubbed from the offer you're promoting, and run the risk of not getting paid for those earnings. If you're sending 100 leads to a zip submit / day and not one of those leads complete the second page it looks dodge.

    This is often the case if you're iframing offers (or using GODcpa) so it's best to mix in some WH leads from legit PPC campaigns. Even if you're running them at a small loss it's okay, it ensures you will get paid. (you don't need to fake referrer for your WH campaigns either, so it'll look more legit)


    That's pretty much the basics to getting paid, so abide by these rules and your earnings will be very secure.

    Obviously I am aware this stuff has been posted before this is just my take on it, and those of you who aren't new to blackhatting will already know most of this stuff (so please don't flame me).

    If you appreciate the help, why not hit the thanks button? :)
     
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  2. yellowbus

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    Great post, hopefully plenty of people will read this as it has a lot of vital info for someone starting out.
    Thanks :)
     
  3. steelballs

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    Thank you for a very concise and easy to understand OP

    Very useful and helpful :cool:
     
  4. zenit

    zenit Newbie

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    you need to package this into an ebook and sell it over at DP..lol
     
  5. element_of_0ne

    element_of_0ne Junior Member

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    Great advice. Thanks.
     
  6. deadzed

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    If I place the Adwords pixel for an offer that's using cpa-r / godcpa, does that compromise the referrer cloaking that these tools use?
     
  7. yellowbus

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    lol!
    do it Cupidstunt
     
  8. videz

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    great info for newbies starting to earn with bh methods
    really helps
     
  9. MaxSteve

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    Don't get too complacent reading these guidelines. Like most criminals, you'll eventually make a mistake that gets you caught. It might take a month or two, but eventually a referrer leak, a merchant looking at lead quality, a boasting post you make on a board, a complaint from a surfer, etc will get you caught.

    Have fun.
     
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  11. TJ

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    Very good post, I knew most of it, but what was new to me is always great, thanks for sharing.
     
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    LMAO.....That's why you have multiple accounts
     
  13. joejim

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    How do you guys get WH leads, through adwords with direct linking to the email submit because no one actually signs up for email submits?
     
  14. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Junior Member

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    Well obviously you're an AM. Judging by your other posts probably from MaxBounty. Correct?

    I think you need to understand that just because we do things 'blackhat' it does not by any way mean its a form of fraud and for you to just go and assume that what we're doing is criminal is just plain disrespectful.

    It's no more criminal than Network's and Merchants shaving leads, and Networks stealing affiliates ideas (which of which do happen).

    The real criminals are the merchants behind 'Free Trial' type offers, tricking poor consumers into thinking they're going to lose weight, look younger, or 'Making $134 - $921 by posting links on Google' (and then billing them $89 a month without them knowing it).

    The very essence of the CPA internet marketing is corrupt in itself, so don't go pointing the finger at us just because we use BH methods.

    Now that being said, some people will abuse their Blackhat Tools and WILL commit fraud, and will get banned. I am not one of those people.

    About 50% of my IM is through Blackhat Methods, and just because it's blackhat doesn't mean my leads are shit. When I iframe offers I only do it to make my own custom landing page relative to that niche, because lets face it the majority of email submits look like shit anyway, and after dealing with the ridiculous amount of lead shaving with email submits its just impossible to profit with Whitehat campaigns otherwise. Personally I have never been scrubbed or banned from a network/offer and I maintain a good relationship with my AM's.

    If you know what you're doing the referrer will never leak. And personally I also hide my traffic sources from my Whitehat campaigns too as I don't want my work plagiarized.

    Let's take a look at classified ads for example. It is considered blackhat as the traffic type isn't allowed. I post an ad offering 'Credit Reports' and I get emails from people interested, I point them in the the right direction (with my affiliate link) and I make a profit, the network makes a profit, the merchant gets quality leads (and too make a profit) and the consumer is happy. Often BH methods can generate higher quality leads than PPC and Organic traffic, so don't go making prejudicial assumptions that just because we are member's of this forum that we are criminals.

    A common misunderstanding with Blackhat is that it's a form a fraud. It's not. Blackhat SEO will generating leads of the same quality of a regular WH Organic Traffic Site. Blackhat is all about creative thinking, crafty ideas, and getting an edge over your competition, NOT scamming people.
     
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  15. MaxSteve

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    Cupid, I understand and agree with most of what you are saying. I am quite familiar with the many variances and levels of blackhat activities. I have no real problem with the bulk of what you've posted - using methods that bend the rules to generate legitimate leads for the merchant. I believe I've posted to that effect somewhere here in the past.

    The problem is that more than 50% of the people in the open forums at BHW are looking to do the exact opposite. The same methods you describe are being used to generate pure garbage fraudulent leads for the merchants. I think they do that because it's easier and/or their skill level isn't enough to be able to work the middle ground.

    That's who my posts are targetted to. Those people who are out to blatantly rip of merchants. The reason is two-fold. Yes, to protect the merchants who are also my customers. But also to protect myself. Who do you think deals with mega pissed off merchants? Who do you think has to deal with non-payments and all the hassles that come from these pissed off merchants. It certainly isn't the guy who paid someone else to get his CPA account approved and is using GodCPA to create a page that says "get free porn, just enter your e-mail address" that iframes the submit area of a e-mail only signup form.

    So yeah, I understand totally what you are doing and where you are coming from. But I still have to try and get to those people who aren't thinking like you and convince them that maybe what they're doing isn't the best thing.

    And before people jump on me and say "hey, this is black hat world, anything goes" - Remember that this is a blackhat SEO forum, which has NOTHING to do with generating fake leads and defrauding merchants.
     
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    Steve, I see where you're coming from, but I don't see what you're trying to get at?

    I know, a lot of blackhat methods screw merchants. iFramed email submits are absolutely useless to the advertiser. I'll be a merchant on a CPA network in a few months, and I guess that's just the shit I'll have to deal with that as well.

    But it's really no different to some of CPA offers that fuck over the consumer (which is about 90% of them).

    Right now the hottest niches are:

    Google Biz Ops
    Free Scholarships
    Cheap Foreclosure House
    Free Government Grants
    Acai
    ResV

    And lets face it, the majority of consumers who sign up for these offers are oblivious to the $90 rebill rate that they get charged after their 7 day 'risk free trial'.

    I'm not complaining, for the owners of the offer, the network, and the publishers they're great, but still they're far shadier than generating a few email submit leads on craigslist or through autoblogging so how about you STFU.

    Blackhat --> Screws the Merchant
    Whitehat --> Screws the Consumer

    When you come to this forum and try to flame users for blackhat techniques, why not think of the poor consumers that MaxBounty fucks over on a daily basis.

    I'm not having a go at IM in general (it's great, and without it I'd be jobless), but perhaps you should consider the consumer not just the advertiser and the network.

    Cheers
     
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  17. finerpleasures

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    I LoVe BlaCKhaTWoRlD..........
     
  18. mr4army

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    good guide done very well im sure alot of noobs will learn alot from this
     
  19. adiseshu

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    nice tips.learned so much .
     
  20. MaxSteve

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    Using your argument, blackhat leads would then be twice as bad to generate than whitehat because you are now screwing over both the merchant and the consumer.

    Sure, I'll admit that many of the offers you see on a CPA network could be considered shady, and if consumers do not take the time to read the fine print on the merchant's landing page, yeah, they could wind up with results they weren't expecting.

    But that's part of my point. Whitehat traffic means surfers are fully aware of what they are getting into when they land on a merchant's landing page. They know what they're about to signup for, and they have the opportunity to read any and all terms before they commit to entering their e-mail address, credit card number, etc.

    When traffic is the fraudulent blackhat, the surfer gets to the landing page under false pretenses. They're signing up thinking they're getting one thing, but they really get another. They don't have the opportunity to read terms for one of various reasons (iframed out, told in the ad copy they don't need to worry about anything, excited at the promise of a job/appt, never even saw the landing page (SSM, stolen credit card, stolen identity), etc.)

    Using your terms, whitehat will screw a consumer, but the consumer LET themselves get screwed because they didn't take the time to think about what they were doing like they would off-line. Blackhat simply screws the consumer, but as an added extra, also screws the merchant.

    Stepping aside from your role as an IM, which do you think is really worse?

    As a last note, I realize there are all kinds of shades of BH. Some of these methods get the surfer to the landing page with full and correct awareness of what they're doing and what they'll get out of the merchant's site. I've touched on this on other threads, but I do not lump those types of BH leads in the screw both the merchant and the consumer category for the reasons I've explained above.