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A question for native English speakers

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Husbarn, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Husbarn

    Husbarn Junior Member

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    "The original price for a 2005 motorcycle was set for about 500$, back in 2005."

    How you understand this sentence?

    Is it better to write like this?

    "Back in 2005, the original price for a 2005 motorcycle was set for about 500$"

    Or maybe i should write that sentence in a different way so that a native speaker can understand it correctly?

    I know there are a lot of english forums out there, but i need a quick answer and i think i should get it quickly here. My question is only for native English speakers, but anyone who knows English grammar well, can answer it too, just mention in your post if you are a native speaker or not.


    EDIT: I added another question below.

    Let's say there is a picture with a house and a man. If we write below that picture similar to this "A big man by the/a beautiful house"

    I think i understand it right that before the "big" we should use "A" (at least i think so), but how about before the "beautiful" , should we use "the" or "a". I mean readers clearly can see that picture and they should understand about what house i am talking about, so i think in this case "the" should be right. Or i am wrong?

    Also maybe i should use "The" in steed of "A" before the "big man" too? since readers already can see him in that picture and they should know that i'm talking about him.
     
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  2. Conor

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    2005 price: $500.00
     
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    I would go with this also. I think what you posted is called a redundant expression Husbarn.
    Native English speaker also :)
     
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  5. Husbarn

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    Thanks for your answers, i think i need to post little more so that you could understand what i really want to ask.


    Let's say i am speaking about some particular motorcycle, and later i'm just mentioning how much one of those cost back in 2005.

    What would be the best way to say that so that a native English speaker could understand it correctly and it would look "a smart" sentence too?
     
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    Original Price of motorcycle in 2005 = $500.

    Make it simple.



    English is just an language it differs according to the people who speaks. Native speakers of English are UK and US,

    But people in US says Taxi

    People in UK says Cab. So we can't say which one is right and which one is wrong. Both the words pointing same meaning with different words.
     
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    The Honda x74million is a superb motorcycle, even today. It's widely known for it's use of two wheels. I like strawberries and nuts, especially while I'm polishing turtles. The Honda cost around $500 back in 2005.

    Make sense? :p
     
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  8. Husbarn

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    Well, yes, it makes sense to me. Thanks for the help :)
     
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  9. Tyrannis

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    The 2nd one is better, but "was set for" is not a common phrase - you should say that the 2005 motorcycle cost about $500

    I have Canadian-Polish dual citizenship, native English speaker.
     
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  10. Robvandam

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    People in UK actually use the word taxi more than cab, lol.
     
  11. James2

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    I disagree. At least in London anyway.
     
  12. ThreadKiller

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    Actually, if you had written "set at" instead of "set for", it would be correct.
     
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    In 2005, The Net Price Of a New Motor Bike Was About $500.
     
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    Hey I think the best option would be:

    In 2005 the cost of a new {motorcycle|insert bike name} was in the region of $500.

    Cheers.
     
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  15. Husbarn

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    Please someone answer this to me. :)

    Just remember about one thing.

    Why even native English speakers say like this. For example, you show them a car and they say "nice car" or "what a nice car" . As you can see in the second example there is "a", but in the first no "a", but normally it suppose to be "a" in the first example as well, isn't it? Why is that that even native speakers don't use "a" before saying just "nice car"?
     
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    Back in 2005 the {insert model here} cost around $500 new

    {native and born in London a long time ago}
     
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  17. ArtVandelay

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    This is a bit more subtle than the last one in that it depends on the tone of the conversation. Admittedly, though, the two can be used interchangeably because their meaning is nearly identical. "Nice car" is a bit more casual - like an offhanded, spontaneous compliment. "What a nice car" is a bit more genuine, somewhat more cordial, and marginally more formal.

    It's a subtlety, and in my opinion the difference between them is pretty negligible.
     
  18. Husbarn

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    You didn't understand what i'm asking. I'm not asking differences between "nice car" and "what a nice car". I'm asking why we don't have "A" before "nice car" and we have "A" in the "what a nice car".
     
  19. Amsterdammer

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    Nice car is a statement whereas what a nice car is an opinion?

    Not a native speaker though.

    Edit: I'm not a native speaker, wrote it too fast, more as in a conversational tone. Same applies to the statement and opinion thingy but if you want to get technical about this I stand with the unedited version of my reply concerning the use of "a". :D
     
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  20. Husbarn

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    Well it makes sense about that statement and opinion, but still would like to hear from a native speaker about this :)
     
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