A nifty sounding method to make $500 a day-Idiot Proof

amdoch said:

Now my question after reading all this is what if i deal with cash?
Lets say the sign up cost is 20 for AFF and i only deal localy telling people I give them 25 to sign up on their own and i just hand them the cash?

There wouldnt be a way to trace it down right?

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You're right. The big issue/problem with this not working is because the vcc can't be re-charged. If the customer uses their own card information then there should not be a problem. I assume most people will forget to cancel their subscription even if they intend to, I know I have.

So, if you can get someone to do everything on their own and sign up through your aff link, there shouldn't be a real problem.

Say what you will, this is news to me, even if it isn't working anymore (and is old as hell) it's a cool idea, and could be used in other ways I'm sure. I didn't even know you could generate VCCs with paypal, that in itself is useful! Thanks.

Fraud, close this thread i really hate these ones neing boosted back up.

lol. It's interesting to see so many black hatter's screaming fraud. Most black hat methods involve some sort of dishonesty bordering on fraud.

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Yes BUT at least when we give the networks a lead we give them a "potential" lead not a lead that will never ever ever convert coz its shitty vcc loaded to the correct amount.

Our leads use their own cc/debit and terms are there to be read. Crafty yes, fraud no.

This is a dia bollackle way to earn your pennies.

if the VCC cant be recharge..then no point to use this method as you will get banned in the end...but unless you can try opening a new affiliate account ??

couldn't you do this with like visa prepaid gift/debt cards?

Purchase ppc hits for your affiliate link and get some traffic, that will help with conversion rates and maybe you will get lucky and get a signup too, also do this yourself go to your local internet cafe's and do it yourself over there.

graphicnut said:

Yes BUT at least when we give the networks a lead we give them a "potential" lead not a lead that will never ever ever convert coz its shitty vcc loaded to the correct amount.

Our leads use their own cc/debit and terms are there to be read. Crafty yes, fraud no.

This is a dia bollackle way to earn your pennies.

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hi, you are on blackhatworld mate. what bullshit are u talking?

Yep, just a good way to increase a good campaign

I thinks its illegal...
But thanks anyway.

AFF is still offering the $120, it was a special promotion offering $130 that just ended. Atleast that is what my account shows. Thats for the gold membership, I can't find anywhere where it says what the commission is on a silver membership. As far as vcc just go to the drugstore and buy some preloaded visas, mastercards, and amex etc. Some with enough for one month, some with enough for two or more months. Let the cards ride, you have to spend money to make money. Don't get greedy and over do it. Just add to your current traffic to pick up some additional profits. You can use the left over amounts on the cards for other trial offers etc. Doesn't have to be all on AFF.

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Hi all!

Only prob that I see is that the aff site is going to notice that all your sign-ups are with vcc's, so they're probably going to check to see why. Then, you're busted, and if you haven't gotten paid yet, you're out the $$ you paid for the sign-ups.

Good post, though! Got me thinking of another way this might be pulled off.

Cheers!

WHATUP BH's,

1st Question: Why do individuals post here saying that a technique is fraud or dishonest?
HELLO you waste of space this is BlackHATWorld not AOL Home Business Opportunities, stop interrupting the thread commenting on what is ethical or fraudulent, your just wasting bandwidth...(I had to get that off my chest)

I myself have also been a ghost-reader of BHW until I signed up recently. Im sure this worked before the strategy was posted to the masses because noobs galore will try this ignorantly and get banned and also for the fact that the "smart" companies read these message boards and keep their ROI high with keen fraud detection.

Similiar to how they dispatch UC's to the jail houses to hear what the prisoners are babbling/bragging about with hopes of getting key information for high profile cases.

Easy for the companies like AFF though, all they have to do is read threads in various forums how noobs explain step for step on how to fraud them and immediately place protection in place to prevent it. Almost any scheme is good until it is performed by thousands most of which don't take the necessary precautions to think outside of 3 step process their over anxious to try, then BOOM! the well dries up.

It's much better to take a technique and apply it to something totally different make enough money and when it's time to move on to the next cow, write your ebook and make some more money while you pass the torch.

This strategy DID work with AFF, I doubt it will in the coming months. Not to mention the number of affiliate sites that will soon stop accepting VCC's.

CHIT

good post imho cookiejar - welcome to the board :wave:

Keywestluvr said:

AFF is still offering the $120, it was a special promotion offering $130 that just ended. Atleast that is what my account shows. Thats for the gold membership, I can't find anywhere where it says what the commission is on a silver membership. As far as vcc just go to the drugstore and buy some preloaded visas, mastercards, and amex etc. Some with enough for one month, some with enough for two or more months. Let the cards ride, you have to spend money to make money. Don't get greedy and over do it. Just add to your current traffic to pick up some additional profits. You can use the left over amounts on the cards for other trial offers etc. Doesn't have to be all on AFF.

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My mistake! AFF is still offering the $130!

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Could Anyone help?

I have a paypal account, and I use it for buying things quite a lot. never received any payment via Paypal.

I login to my paypal, cilcked my account, but I don't see any paypal plugin link, or VCC? I try brwsing the help section without any luck.

Would anyone help me on this?


Thanks in advance

it appears to me that only people with less than 200 posts think this method will work, but DONT try to guess what i m gonna say next, cuz you Don't know where I am going with this, wait and follow me ...

actually... I believe this method CAN work just fine. It can work perfectly if you use the VCC's properly and get some extra cheap traffic to mix in with your signups. This method will ONLY fail due to greed... Nothing else really will make this method fail. As for the affiliate network checking that all your signups are with VCCs i highly doubt that ! it makes me laugh because a VCC is NOT an illegal or fraudulent card, it is just a SAFER card for online purchases.. period. Let me make you an example to kill this one: If I give 20 guys VCCs preloaded with $30 each and ask them to all sign up, the monthly rebill will succeed for the first/second month, so to say that your signups all using VCCs would get you banned.. that is simply Not true.

the other thing i find laughable is when people quickly shout that "you will get banned.. Stop this fraud now". . . sometimes i sense that people will warn you against something because they Don't want you to mess it up just in case you approach it in a childish way. And it is probably a good thing to warn people in that case. But to simply tell people that they will get banned is Not the most constructive way to warn them. The business performance metrics that aff would check, as explained by Manu and NickFlame, are valid, but that's NOT enough to convince me that "one would therefore get banned".

what i would advise about the VCCs is that you should Not initially use the "indian VCCs" or any Non-US VCCs (i Don't want to tell u the reason right now). Other than that, you will need to make absolutely sure that you present a "new identity" for every signup. I repeat "NEW IDENTITY FOR EVERY NEW SIGNUP". By that I mean, new first name, last name, zip code, email address, password and tel no, cookies and ip address (very important!! .. don't sign up 20 new guys in sequence who are all using GMAIL addresses and they STAY in your street with similar telephone numbers and same zip, same street address, and they all wear the same pants everyday !!). Basically PLEASE i beg you guys and especially you noobs too .. make sure each new sign up has a New Clean Unused Identity.

i'll be testing a few further things out, cuz i believe you will certainly need a website (with some sort of banners on it) as well as some other hidden puzzle if you want to stay truly blackhat and run this method in true stealth mode.

YES, aff is still offering $120/$130 per signup

The subject of this thread says this method is "idiot-proof" .... NOW i have to warn you that there's NO idiot that would attempt this method and come out smiling... if you're an idiot then you WILL get banned.. you must be really smart and smooth on this method.

What the hell is happening here? Who said this method won't work fuck it!

Why would you want to send 10 vcc signups to one single account and raise the red flag? Do 2 signups for each affiliate account, and you will get paid. Leave it, open new accounts and do 2 signups only for each.

Only a fool will send 10 vcc signups to one aff account.

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