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A new Affiliate Network is coming up : Calling Everyone, put in your suggestions

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by proroy, Jun 8, 2009.

  1. proroy

    proroy Junior Member

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    Hello BHW,

    Finally a new affiliate network is on its way to be launched this june. I have thought of making it pretty much out of the box and something that will attract attention. I have been associated with BHW since the very beginning and so I cant move ahead without getting some suggestions from my own people and ways to improve to meet their needs.

    Here's what I have seen:
    Most affiliate networks work with big brand advertisers who are kind of dominating the networks. There's little room for small entreprenuers to have a fair share of the affiliate marketing industry. We all know that the money is in the LIST. In order to build a powerful list you need to have targeted leads and they eventually become buyers to anything you promote within your niche.

    So, if you are a small marketer or if you want to dominate a small niche you are into, then a small pay-per-lead campaign can really help you out. Its hard to get a place in the bigger networks where the big whales will almost drip you down simply because of the huge fund spending.

    So where do small advertisers go?
    That is one question in my book which seeks an answer. I am to provide that answer in an affiliate network which is open for everyone. We are looking for small business owners, entreprenuers, webmasters and even bloggers. If you think you are one amongst the many, dont hesitate replying back in this thread and I will try getting a custom solution for everyone of you. However, there will be some norms applied otherwise we cant draw a line between advertisers and affiliates. (I need BHW people to provide some suggestions to me in this arena)

    Affiliates can exploit the micro niches
    This provides room to avoid saturation. Most bigger niches like forex, debts, cash advances are heavily densed and we all know how tough it is competing with the super affiliates who are bidding sky high per click. If you have heard the video that was up sometime ago regarding finding micro niches, then you are probably aware of the buyer potential that lies burried in it. What if you got an affiliate network showing products from these hidden niches ?

    BHW talk to me

    Every idea, no matter how much soundproof it may seem to be always has some shortcomings in the process. And we need to fight back such loopholes to achieve accuracy. Here's where my own people can help.

    Tell me about your expectations that you look for from a network as an affiliate?

    Have you ever thought of becoming an advertiser? If you like the plan what more modifications can be done to suit your needs?

    We might not be speaking blackhat here, but yeah we are talking about marketing. We got some huge affiliates lingering around at BHW and also potential advertisers / product creators working in the backend. I certainly dont disrespect blackhat but I am against the very fact of providing bogus leads and invalid information just to make some quick bucks. The process should be reciprocal and each one should benefit. That should be the goal of an affiliate network.

    Ok i end it over here but the discussion continues. I need more ideas, concerns from my fellowmen here. The network is ready and this may be the right chance to make things closer to perfection.

    Let the talk begin ! Feel free to comment on the plan. Also if you would like to be an advertiser dont hesitate in speaking to me. I am all ears to everyone.
     
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  2. pubenemy

    pubenemy Registered Member

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    You are wrong super affiliates that are smart are paying less per click. Because they've been with adwords etc for a long time and built a relationship and end up with high qs and cheaper bids. Bids my new account show 1.70 on I know an aged good account with good qs pays 1.23 for a niche thats paying $7-10/epc.. Just what Ive seen and my 2 cents. =) Seems like everyone is starting networks lately lol. I work for one myself. Do you use off the shelf software or have something custom built? We use something off the shelf, not direct track!
     
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    Yeah, dont go with direct track for sure. And pubenemy is right, Harro has said it many times too, tons and tons of people are starting networks, so there will be alot of new competition.

    Since you're focusing on smaller advertisers, make sure their shit is good before you let them in. There may be a reason theyre still small and not bigger. You don't wanna let every last piece of crap product in that converts at .001% and let your publishers get pissed! As long as you know the advertiser's product is quality and not crap trying to make a quick effortless buck things should work out.
     
  4. proroy

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    Thanks for rectifying me pubenemy. I do agree on the part that of the old account and high qs with google. But what about the affiliates who dont have aged accounts? Actually i am trying to bring up this network in small scale first and then move on as time proceeds.

    Hey stealthigblog thank you for taking your time to comment on this. Actually, yes there are a lot of networks coming up lately and the reason where I choose to differ is that i want to target on micro niche product creators. As i said there should be certain norms applicable so we would certainly check for quality and if the product really has power to improve. One such product i can think of right now is HA from thisoldhat who is unfortunately banned from this forum.

    I am using something off the shelf and i am not with directtrack for sure. There are a lot of forums but still we choose to linger around for a more amount of time here at BHW. Reason is because of its out of the box methods and superb contribution from fellow people. So an out of the box network is what will succeed despite of all the competition around. Thats what i feel.
     
  5. proroy

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    I was expecting couple of more replies. Anyways seems like people here are not interested to becoming an advertiser and promote their product :)