Hello lads and lasses. You know what time it is, so let's just get right to it: So I was definitely wrong about the lower dan tian and the energy it produces. It seems like it gives off two very separate current outputs. The first is the usual one I feel in my arms, fingers, face, etc... all over my body. While it is noticeably different from the "astral body" (the energy is definitely "denser" and more electrical - that's the best way I can put it), it's actually not THAT intense. At all. It's fairly pleasant to be honest, like a blanket. I can also "trigger" the current by simply breathing deeply into my lower dan tian (the electricity then starts circulating inside the immortal fetus). But the main problem is that i can't really push it out of my body (except sometimes into metallic objects, wood, etc...). I simply assumed that the more energy I pack into the LDT, the more this ambient current will grow and eventually I'll be able to project it out of my body at will (for pyrogenesis, etc...) like this guy: However, that doesn't appear to be the case. In fact I feel like I'm an adventurer discovering a mysterious new territory every time I meditate. The immortal fetus CAN give a much, much, MUCH higher level of current (I'd say maybe 50-100X stronger) but this is very rare. I haven't been able to trigger this at will - at all. Both times happened when I was half asleep, half awake. The first time was on my neck. The energy was so, so, so high it was very painful and I actually yelped lol. The next time was yesterday - when I was doing heart practices and sort of fell asleep. I woke up with the intense current in my right arm - right over my heart. It wasn't as painful this time, but was scary high. I wondered if I could push it into different parts of my body so I put my hand on my thigh and tried to push it into my leg. My leg started twitching uncontrollably..LOL! Then I felt a very, very vast emptiness in both my legs. Like they were completely hollow inside. Totally empty...fascinating. I don't have any idea what that means. Perhaps this higher current is what gets projected out - not the lower ambient current. I have no idea haha. Anyway, I'll keep practicing .