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A little brainstorming about Followliker scheduling and mind-confusing questions

Discussion in 'Twitter' started by kctnky, May 17, 2016.

  1. kctnky

    kctnky Registered Member

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    I had asked some questions about scheduling in Followliker previously via giving some cases in this post. However, I have developed my own theory for that. Read the next one.
     
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  2. kctnky

    kctnky Registered Member

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    Okay, it seems no one is interested in brainstorming about Followliker scheduling ;). Anyway, I found my own way. I share it here. First of all, the basic tasks for Twitter are; Follow, Unfollow, Tweet, Retweet, Like. I am going to run these tasks on my accounts. Of course, FL will add scraping tasks as requirements, too.

    Engineers or people who are good at Math will understand the following equation. For the others, it is not as complicated as it seems. But it is just the theory I built up. So, you can skip this step if you want. Ä°t is the time equation for a day (Passing time values for some tasks like scrape, update, etc. are omitted since they are negligible among the others). Just click to image in order to see equation;

    equation.png

    Now, we need to decide how many instances of Followliker we will run in one computer. If we want to get around in safe borders I recommend running only a single instance. However, there exist some limitations as we will see on below calculations. Summary is that if daily follow/unfollow counts are too high then one single instance would not satisfy it. Otherwise, you also need to tweet/retweet very frequently in order to run single instance as a nature of the Followliker. I did the calculations for starting new TW accounts. So, I run a single instance of Followliker.

    These are the constants I use. (You can change them based on your case. Following values are based on my experience for fresh accounts);

    AI = 900
    Mean value of automation interval is set to 900 seconds. In other words, automation interval is set to 10 to 20 min

    WH = 20
    We run our accounts 20 hours in a day. Remaining 4 hours they sleep. You can set this setting in Followliker at the last page of the Wizard

    n = 10
    As you know, Followliker runs in automation cycles preceeding each other in continuous automation. This number determines the number of automation cycles (runs) in a day. You can not set this value anywhere in Followliker since it is actually the result of your inputs. However, I set this value equal to 10 for calculations which means each automaton cycle will last 2 hours in average considering the 20 running hours in a day. But here comes the question: how to choose this value? why did I chose 10? Because, I want retweet task to have least frequency and I want to retweet 10 times in a day. Just think. You will get it.

    Dloss = 2
    This value resembles the loss time passing through while executing the task events. For instance; a follow request will start and finish in 2 seconds, a tweet request will start and finish in 2 seconds, etc. If you use bad proxies with lower connection speeds then increase this value. If you use follow filters then increase this value (checking the accounts to follow also will take some time). I also absorbed the times passing through while scrape and update operations inside this value. You will notice that this parameter can be also neglected for a quiet account (as new accounts should be) if follow filters are not used. It is not critical. We lose most of the time while waiting between the task actions.

    So, after replacing the constans our equation becomes;

    equation-final.png

    Now we need to determine the occurences of tasks in a day. I want;

    Follow: 120 in average
    Unfollow: 120 in average
    Tweet: 20 in average (2x faster than retweets and likes)
    Retweet: 10 in average
    Like: 10 in average

    Remember that how I choose the value for n in calculations and why I have choosen n is equal to 10. To continue, we know each automation cycle (run) will last 2 hours and there will be total of 10 cycles in a day. So, number of the task actions needed to be realized in a cycle can be found just by dividing our desired values to 10. Note that these results give us the mean value of Task Limits to enter the wizard in Followliker while setting up our project;

    Task Limit for Follow: 12 ==> Set 1 to 23 for high randomness
    Task Limit for Unfollow: 12 ==> Set 1 to 23 for high randomness
    Task Limit for Tweet: 2 ==> Set 1 to 3 for high randomness
    Task Limit for Retweet: 1 ==> Set 1 to 1
    Task Limit for Like: 1 ==> Set 1 to 1

    Now, we need to determine the task delays. Replacing the task limits our equation becomes (Note that task delay values for retweet and like operations are nothing more than dummy parameters, i.e., non-functional);

    11*TLfollow + 11*TLunfollow + 1*TLtweet + 56 = 6300

    Just for simplicity take TLfollow = TLunfollow;

    22*TLfollow&unfollow + TLtweet = 6244

    I have choosen TLtweet equal to 3600 seconds (remember that one automation cycle lasts 2 hours and task limit for tweet operation is set to 2 in our calculations).

    Finally, we obtain our task delay values;

    Task Delay for Follow: 120.18 ==> Set 60 to 180
    Task Delay for Unfollow: 120.18 ==> Set 60 to 180
    Task Delay for Tweet: 3600 ==> Set 1800 to 5400
    Task Delay for Retweet: does not matter ==> leave as default
    Task Delay for Like: does not matter ==> leave as default

    You can also find possible daily limits of the tasks via calculation. But it will be meaningless since it is very low probability that Followliker will always choose the lower/higher limit values for the delays and limits of tasks. So, just give these values in enough range which will still make you in safe borders of Twitter. I have used;

    Daily Limit for Follow: 60 to 180
    Daily Limit for Unfollow: 60 to 180
    Daily Limit for Tweet: 10 to 30
    Daily Limit for Retweet: 5 to 15
    Daily Limit for Like: 5 to 15

    Remember also to mark these settings;
    - Shuffling the tasks
    - Ignoring the accounts without without proxy
    - Setting scrape user limit to a higher value than maximum follow limit
    - Setting scrape tweet limit to a higher value than maximum retweet or like limit

    Lastly, I can not guarantee that these calculations work for everyday. However, it should work in long ranges based on the statistics and probability sciences. Another important thing is the processing power of your computer. In addition, if you have more accounts running in a single instance of Followliker than the "Account Threads" value in general settings, it will cause also the latencies.

    You're welcome for comments.
     
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  3. LoftPower

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    Perhaps you can start a journey on this and let us know how it works out for you :)
     
  4. kctnky

    kctnky Registered Member

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    I am now in search of the usernames for scraping in my niche. After collecting all the required information, I hope starting my campaign with above settings in a few hours. I have created all my accounts (x25) in last weekend. So, the journey begins ;). As the accounts get bigger and older in time I will update the new settings here. I just feel that I started with extreme-safe limits ;).
     
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    I have a college degree in business and math, and while your calculations are fun to play with, and perhaps may prove useful - I find it much easier to use trial and error to manage my massive stockpiles of accounts. You would be surprised how fast you can figure this stuff out without the math.

    The only major math I want to do with my Twitter setups is counting the money. I hope this works out for you though. It's just super boring, and unlikely to be all that useful in the end. More likely - you'll do all this, discover that the math doesn't bare itself out almost ever, and then go with trial and error like the rest of us.

    It does help to do a little LOW LEVEL math, but this is simply overboard, and unlikely to prove fruitful in my opinion. It would be way more productive to be actually using FL to perform the functions as opposed to using complex math to figure out IF the number of allocated actions is going to work within the amount of time in a day. With a spare 24 hours it's pretty easy to figure out whether actions occur in that allotted time or not, so the math is not exceptionally productive despite it's creative flair.
     
  6. kctnky

    kctnky Registered Member

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    Believe me I did all these because I am just bored. For someone who have degree in math these are super-easy and you don't even need to write them explicitly. The results can be obtained with a just five min thinking. I congratulate you for your degree. I have also B.S. and M.S. degrees on electronics engineering and now I am on my Phd. But not everyone has to be good at math. A few trials would also make you obtain the results. However, some trials may cause you go beyond the safe borders of Twitter especially if you just created your accounts until you get it. Nowadays, reverification wave is killing most of us. I devote my calculations to the new beginners ;)

    I am in twitter marketing business for a long time. I just gave a break of 8 months and returned back. Even I can claim that I was one of the people who had the most income from twitter marketing in BHW once upon a time. So, I have my own experience and huge knowledge obtained by trials and errors as you said. But, Followliker is new to me and I don't want to discover it by trials and errors. I always developed my own tools for such things. Now I'm in a transition term to Followliker. In addition, it is obvious that you need to make some calculations in order to guess how many people you will follow in a day with your inputs. I can do it in my head. But it is no harm to look them up closely and help others if anyone needs. Lastly, thanks for your comment :D
     
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    What do you mean by 'single instance'
     
  8. akiitian

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    You can run multiple copies of FL on one computer. Single means you are running a single copy
     
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    Is this working for you to avoid red flag,
    cuz these day SMS wave is killing us ?