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A heads up for all BHW members! PSP, iPhone, XBox etc..

Discussion in 'Dropshipping & Wholesale Hookups' started by AnImALmoTheR, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. AnImALmoTheR

    AnImALmoTheR Junior Member

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    I was thinking to write something down myself, but a friend from another forum have done it much better (chines guy). His name is Ben, so this is his text from his forum (i would link but it is against the rules..).

    Read and remember....

    What I have noticed frequently throughout this forum is the large amount of buyers who have been scammed by Chinese companies in the process of buying Brand Name products; specifically electronics.

    Now, we?ve all heard that a large portion of our brand name electronics are Made in China . This believe has caused millions of dollars in fraud each year from the China.

    Let me break it down:

    YOU cannot purchase WHOLESALE pricing from China for BRAND NAME PRODUCTS.

    But why? If the stock is made in , then why aren?t their wholesale pricing there?

    The answer is simple.

    When a brand name manufacture like ?Apple? has a new product to design, they contact factories in to manufacture the units. Reason being is that the labor pay will be much less in then hiring a factory from a different country.

    But, as soon as the units are build, they are shipped DIRECTLY to Apple in USA . The factory CANNOT distribute the Apple product among China. If the factory did distribute the units among China, then this action is considered ILLEGAL, and if you purchase those ILLEGAL gained products, then you will also be prosecuted by the law. .Every single legal Apple product built in will be exported back to the USA . The ONLY possible way for a supplier in China to get their hands on the Apple product is by IMPORTING the units from USA or an Apple Distributor. ( There are no Apple Distributors in China )

    So let?s go over this once again. A supplier in China cannot at all get stock from an Apple Factory in China . They only way they can get stock is by importing from USA in which they will only then get their BEST price.

    Now let?s think for a second, if this supplier has to import the Apple products back into China first and then he/she is allowed to sell; how can he/she possibly have better prices then let?s say a supplier in the USA ?

    The answer is simple, they CANNOT.

    Any legitimate supplier in China that supplies ORIGINAL Brand Name products will sell over $50-$70 more expensive then an average supplier in USA the for Apple products.

    So now let me recap everything:

    If you plan to purchase brand name products; then NEVER EVER purchase them from China if you?re looking for ?GOOD? prices. You WILL find a much better price if you search for the product in the country where the brand name product is imported back into.

    This article stands true for ALL Brand Name Products.
    /BEN

    So, for all of you electronic guy's and gals don't be fooled by people selling iPhones etc they are FAKE or stolen in like 99% of the time, this is just a warning, and if you are interested in buying consoles in wholesale then i recommend you to do some background search.

    First, if you would like to sell Psp, then check sony's homepage for contracted sellers in your country. Then you call them and ask to buy wholesale.

    The other road filled with scammers, fakes and police/customs problems, well i wouldn't go down that road...

    Keep you head up and do your research!

    R!
     
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    tbkdkc Junior Member

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    good post man, i find this true, although i never bought electronics from china because i a was already well aware of this and have heard numerous other horror stories, i do manage to get some other things from them.... noobs you better read this...

    but im geusing you got shafted once or twice trying this?
     
  3. AnImALmoTheR

    AnImALmoTheR Junior Member

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    Well i never got canned on electronics or any other thing else from china. The reason for this is only that all the dropshipping and wholesale i done are made with European companies. And why i favored European companies is only because that its a trade union and we have free movement of service and goods. so no customs and import taxes. So it has just been a business move not to use china. after i added all the cost for shipping, handling, import taxes etc then the difference on price are almost minimum from what i get inside the union.

    If someone want a opinion on some company then you are welcome to PM me and i'll do my best to check it out.

    R!
     
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    sf6689 Registered Member

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    Yep the above said is completely true about China. Another thing to note is that if you are buying electronics from china, lets take cell phones for an example. All chinese produced clone phones will not come with 3G, Wifi, and GPS. Which means that if you are trying to sell them as real phones, you will be easily caught.

    If people are still trying to find brand name electronics for cheap, in Hong Kong a lot of the brand name electronics can be found for a bit cheaper then in other places. The only problem with this is that they will come with a warranty for the country of purchase which will mean your clients/you will not be able to claim warranty for the product in say the USA, but overall you can still sell them for a profit as long as you mention that it's not an international warranty or contact your countries warranty department for the product and confirm with them whether they will fix it for you.


    Hope the above contributes a little to what was said above
     
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    Actualy thats a load of bollocks ;)

    Chinese factorys rob moulds, some of them also over make orders so they are left with a lot to sell in the black market!! Anyway yes nearly all branded electronics are fake unless its a chinese brand. The moulds are the same though.
     
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    Great, two people contradict each other in this thread and we are left back where we started.

    Neither has any real form of proof backing them up.
     
  7. AnImALmoTheR

    AnImALmoTheR Junior Member

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    and what do you have to contribute with?

    nothing....

    read the all the post again.
     
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    WRONG, I use to buy from china...name brand for 2 years straight, electronics, I sold the LG prada waaay before anyone had it on ebay. It's all about who u know in china...if u can get electronics, shoes and clothing is something diffrent...but as a ebay seller, I can tell u that dude is leading u in the wrong direction.
     
  9. AnImALmoTheR

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    well you have my point of view. You can by great products from china, but i think its almost impossible to get AUTHENTIC BRAND NAME ELECTRONICS/CLOTHINGS. obviously we just have a different opinion. sure you could score a few bucks buying the LG Prada phone and sell it on ebay but if you want to do real business then you contact Prada or Lg and see who their wholesale resellers is. Do you actually think that Prada or LG would allow their manufactures to sell items of the shelf? LG probably have their own factory... And a argument like "the manufacture made some extra phones and now they cleaning out their closet. LG and Prada would drag them to court and never again deal with that shitty factory.

    People can do what they want with their own money, all i want to do is give you small warning and tell you to keep your head up, so you dont get fooled.

    R!
     
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    How about you read the following quote, it seems you had a little trouble understanding my first post.

    Graphicnut:
    You both don't cite any sources whatsover, and you both contradict one another. The question is still unanswered.

    If either of you actually had sources that might change things...
     
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    You are absolutely correct. They have a line, a food chain if you will. The patent holder or product designer ---> The factory or manufacturer ---> The main distributor(s) ----> the "wholesalers" -----> The retailers ------> the consumer.

    This is what most sellers don't understand. You will NOT get a better price than the main distributor because you do NOT move 20,000 widgets a month. The only chance you have to get a better price than the "wholesalers" is to get in with the distributor and buy bulk.

    If anyone is selling outside of this food chain they risk a lawsuit and most likely do not have authentic parts/products.
     
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    You are so wrong, I have gotten Authentic items from China plenty of times. Like Greengoblin said its all about who you know
     
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    Sorry, I order alot of stuff from china to resell. Actually i justed orders 15 Apple Ipods 3rd Gen for $25 A P/c.

    I have to agree with Graphicnut, The product might not be original, but the molds are. So they are identical, it actually might not be the same quality as apple or nike, but its pretty close.

    So basically if you want to order from china, you can but don't expect it to be the same quality as the original.

    Whats my sources?

    Here a list of everything i imported from China.

    Nike Shoes
    Apple 3rd Gen (They come in a Week Or two)
    Apple Iphone CLONES
    Clone Cell Phone That Supported TomTom GPS
    Babolat Tennis Rackets
    GPS
    BMW EMBLEMS ( You could really tell the difference in the Quality Bad, My Fault cause their are better quality out their.)
    Bmw Fog lights

    I also imported Marbole Red Cigs From Somewhere But They Taste Like Shit.
     
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    i have found great buys in china. The factories are the same as the ones that made the brand names but the ones I purchase are unbranded unless I wish to purchase in bulk and brand myself the quality is the same as the other big brands only much cheaper to buy and most factories will service the product for free as long as you ship it to them, allowing you to create your own warr. As for the purchase of NAME BRANDS from china, I agree it is who you know. There are over runs of products that go straight to the black market there just like there are here it is indeed who you know and what you wish to do that makes all the diff.
     
  15. TheTRUTH

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    Nikes - 100% Fake
    "iPod's" - Generic Replicoa
    Clones - self-explanatory
    Clone Cell Phoes
    Replica
    Generic
    Replica
    Replica

    and if you get ANY brand phones(motorola,samsung,etc) they are refurbished and sometimes not even in good condition, they only fix up the outside..
     
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    fellas, this post just shows that most of you have not lived in a communist state. people will go out of their way to smuggle out, over manufacture and trick the system in any possible way.

    just like you see demo copies of movies come out months ahead of the premiere, so does any other product.

    quality is another aspect and will mostly depend on your relationship with the supplier and commitment for certain volume.

    the can supply you with the same quality product as the original, however, for most of them such investment won't pay off. that's why they push for volume/lower cost.
     
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    Ok..That still doesnt mean you can by BRAND NAMES from China...They are VERY VERY RARE EXCEPTIONS(such as refurbished products).

    If you have bought brand name products from china you have been GOTTEN.Its not real and if it is rest assured there is somthing wrong with it.

    Any experinced wholesaler would know this.
     
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    I think what animalmother is saying is you can not get LEGIT products from china, you can get black market stuff, but you always run the risk of customs problems and such.

    what others are saying is they can get the products, which is true, just missing the LEGIT [not clone/copy black market]
     
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    I am chinese guy, selling replica items. I have to say , for the electron items, such as ipod or iphone, that is different for authentic, for the electron, so if the clients ask this one, or that one function.. shit, your replica don't have it.. so I quit these productions. .but I focus on the handbags, totes, that is good, we use the good leather.. and carefully clone it.. so our bags are exactly as the authentic.. we are in this business for more than 8 years, that might be dangeous to have a replica bag store in new york, but in china, that is ok, I have a store. as the same time, I open the website... I have to say, different country has different law,, IN usa, you can "shit the president", but if you "shit chinese leader in beijing", you will be in prison.. and never hope to get out....
     
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    Love this post:)couldnt of said it better myself. thanks