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A few SEO questions

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nglbh, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. nglbh

    nglbh Registered Member

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    Hi BHW


    I have read a lot of threads about SEO, followed courses, watched videos etc... (months ago) and I want to give it a try but I'm stuck with a few questions:


    1. Should I use an expired/expiring/dropped domain for my money site or should I buy a new one?
    I know that a new domain will probably take longer to rank, I like to do things fast so to answer myself I'll go with "Buy an old one", but I prefer to get more points of view before reaching a decision. I'll do split testing in the future, but since I'm just starting I'll prefer to take a road that someone else already tested.

    2. I'll probably build a PBN, later, around my money sites (after doing proper OFF and ON page optimization, social signals, guest posts etc), the thing is I don't want to leave any footprints (who does?), so Can I buy all the domains (which meet the right criteria, DA-PA, CF-TF etc) under let's say godaddy but hosting them with different hosting providers? Does it leave a footprint, like on whois? If it does, what would you do? Buy each domain on a different provider? What if most of the auctions are on godaddy or namejet and so on, would you buy the domains there and then transfer them somewhere else?

    3. Once you own a domain that will be used for the pb network, how much time do you have to set it up?
    Could the domain start loosing its power if it's, I don't know, a blank page for a week?

    Probably a few of these questions have already been answered if not all of them, but since I took some time off without taking action I thought to ask them anyway.


    The following "text" was a question but after reading it a few times, it felt more like something I had to get off my chest then an actual question.
    One thing that keeps bothering me about expired domains is this (Paranoid Mode Activated): What if Google just scraps the domains as we do? I mean what if big G looks for expired domains with the same metrics we use to choose them and just keep track to see if someone builds a new website on it? (told you, I'm being paranoid)
    Yeah, I know that not all the domains are going to be used as part of a PBN, a "not seo" person could just register it for their own personal needs, but let's be realistic not all the people who wants to start a website knows that they can buy an expired one, hell, I didn't even know what an expired domain was until few months ago, this doesn't means that none else does but if I were to put myself in someone else shoes (most of the ppl I know) I think they'll probably go and register a new one. That being said, could G do such a thing (supposing they already aren't)? Both in terms of "tools", yes I'm talking of thousands and thousands of domains to track and I don't even know how they could plan to manage or even do such a thing but I'm also talking of Google, and in terms of "Is it worth for them to do it?", manual review of milions of websites? it'll take centuries, Auto Reviewer 3.0? based on what? (Since some of us can spot a bad pbn does it mean G will be able to write something that does it too on automatic?).
    Probably most of PBN owners out there are going to say "Nope, I use pbns since they were born and I'm ranking fine",
    "If what you said it's true, why google didn't still did anything?".
    Well what if G is waiting, I don't know, for the right time to deliver this surprise?
    I'm not asking you to predict the future :D

    Some sentences leads me to believe that I just answered (more like my opinion) some of the questions by myself, but anyway I'd like to hear from you.



    Thanks in advance
     
  2. PBN BUILDER

    PBN BUILDER Newbie

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    I'm still seeing that using expired domains as a money site is still working, but I've seen them drop off for no apparent reason, too. I would start a new domain with your keyword in the domain name.

    No need to wait building your PBN. Yes, you can buy all your domains at GoDaddy, and have them hosted elsewhere. You don't need to transfer to another registrar unless you're looking to save money on privacy and renewal. GoDaddy is expensive.


    I set them up immediately. I don't see a reason to wait, unless you're strapped for time.
     
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  3. donArmando

    donArmando Regular Member

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    Hi Friend,

    Answering your questions:

    1. Usually, new ones take a little bit longer to rank, but depending on your idea, or project, a new one won't hurt. If you decide to go with a dropped, expired domain, you should check it's link profile, history, etc.

    2. Host them in different hosting providers or hosting ips, and you are on the safe side.

    3. It depends on you, you need to make it a good quality website, so unique content and links, work on them, they are your first tiers.

    4. there is no rule that says that you can't buy an expired domain and create a website from it. But when you buy it, look at the links that domain has, it would be great if you find domains with links from authority sites like cnn, bbc, etc. And, again be sure to check it's history.
     
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  4. LoftPower

    LoftPower Elite Member

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    I would suggest getting a new one. If you work hard enough you can get it ranked quickly. But this is just an opinion that I have as I have never had much experience with this.
     
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  5. nglbh

    nglbh Registered Member

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    What happen if a manual reviewer is going to do a whois check on a domain, will he find the same registration infos?
    I think godaddy will be suspicious if I'm going to change every time my name, address etc

    Mainly I'd have chosen an expired one because of its established "power" (obviously I'll pick the good ones) but from all the answers I can see that a new one won't hurt


    Do you mean that you always tested old domains and never a new one?

    Thanks everyone for the heads-up
     
  6. PBN BUILDER

    PBN BUILDER Newbie

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    I guess I don't know what you mean by GoDaddy getting suspicious. Suspicious of what? You buy privacy for each domain that you purchase, and point the nameservers to a different host. Simple as that...