1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

A doctor in IM...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Dillusion, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    I have a friend of mine that was a doctor until a few months ago, he lost his license because he was giving access to medication used to drug usage to another friend of ours, which overdosed as a consequence of the drugs.

    It was a rough time for him, and he almost had to serve time, but due to his shown repentance, the court recommended that his medical license was revoked and that no actual time was served.

    So, he is obviously unemployed, he has submitted application to several administrative jobs but hasn't got any response so far, since he knew that I was working in IM he came to me asking if he could make a living out of IM.

    I told him that it was possibly and that I would further look into it, I am aware that there are several doctors making online consults, but I do not know about if he can do this with his license revoked.

    We are talking about a person that had an average income of about $4500 per month, which is paying for a house that is worth $200.000 or more.

    So the prospect of him making any less of $4000 a month isn't worth it for him.

    Is there anything I can refer him to make online, considering his medical knowledge, that can drive him to make the income he needs.

    Thanks
     
  2. toxtom

    toxtom BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    197
    Yup! suggest him to sell the house and buy some smaller for less then 20k , and for the rest of the money buy more houses( I see on realtor.com a lot of cheap houses even in 10-15k range ) then he just needs them to fix up, repaint maybe and rent out and in same time put them for sale for 50k each...The rent for those houses will pay his basic needs and will pay for small further fixing up on these houses and so on till he actually sells at least one and then buy more houses and just wait for the buyer ;)

    Too bad I'm not in US I would start doing something like this in hearbeat ;)
     
  3. Peepers

    Peepers Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    73
    Heh, Uhm.. I live in US. Here, you have strict regulations that must pass BEFORE you can sell a house as livable or people won't buy it. You can't do plumbing by yourself.. Besides, he might have a family. He can't just sell the house REALLY quick and buy and resell REALLY quick. In US, you have to have a Realtor license after you sell your first home..

    Also, you're gonna need a lot of money to repair a home in need of only a paint job in the 20k bracket. I hate to sound pessimistic, but this is the truth. Though realty is a great option if he lives in US due to the economy and houses being so cheap, they are still not this cheap, so realty isn't the best advice unless he's got some money saved up.

    I'd recommend doing the same thing as before; sell more drugs. Can he become a nurse?? He could also become a male stripper for a night club. He could go underground under a different name, shave his finger tips and become a doctor again!

    Those things could earn him 4k/month.. I wouldn't recommend internet marketing unless he wants to become an e-whore. He could tell everyone he is a doctor and about all kinds of medical knowledge that would dazzle them and then pop the link to authorize and never meet them. 200/bucks per day can be done easily if he's tech savvy.

    My advice: He should go back to school.. There's a reason he was making more than 4k/month..
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2009
  4. nahor

    nahor Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    204
    Occupation:
    BHW Lurker
    Location:
    Seven Mile Beach
    He could make money doing this, but unless someone is holding his hand and teaching him some of the real ideas that are money makers on here, then he's gonna be in BHW for a good minute learning when he needs to be earning.

    So with this you can see well over 4k a month, hell there's ways to make 4k a day, but you just need to know what you're doing...

    I just looked at your location by the way, I believe that might hold him back unless he knows how to set up getting a bizness in the US. But am sure you should be able to coach him thru your knowledge of being here...
     
  5. cooolr

    cooolr Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    35
    Wow just wow, is that how little they make? I've been really setting my standards high and following them. Aren't you meaning to say that that is little? Because man that is little for me and my goals.

    I think a persons first IM goal should be to get a few dollars as a test, but after that: $500 / day first goal minimum.

    And again HAHAHAHAHA. Are you suggesting that internet marketing won't do this? Hell, aim for that weekly for a start. And then when a new year starts, aim for next year making that daily.
    And once you have some money, expend more on this and other things like forex trading? I really like it for not having any customers and being able to double the amount of money in a few days.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2009
  6. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    Well, I've been an active member here for a couple of months, I am a tech geek, and I'm only just now averaging $1000 a month, and I wouldn't say that my standards are low, or even medium for that matter.

    On the other hand in my country it takes you 10 years to complete med school and get your license, so I would say that as far as medical knowledge goes, he is definetilly well trained.

    I have a situation that makes it difficult to me to work outside, I have a shattered knee cap which makes very hard to me to move, so my main focus is to get a stable income out of IM and not try some ventures that can make me $500 in a day and left me the whole rest of the month without receiving any money.

    But my friends situation is completely different, he should have AT LEAST some $5k to $10k in savings and he has enormous family support, but as far as getting a job goes, and since he is unable to practice real medicine, it's getting harder for him, in my country whenever you apply to a job you have to submit a criminal status report, and since he was judged and convicted, it is extremely difficult for him to get a job, that's why he came asking my advise which honestly I couldn't give him any better judgment about his situation.

    I merely thought that, pratically anything on the internet sells, so anyone with such a huge medical expertise could make a full time job out of IM.
     
  7. neo

    neo Power Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    365
    Technically he is no longer a doctor. So he can't do IM as a doctor.
    However he could use his knowledge in the field of medicine to build sites etc. But I highly doubt that he will be willing to go through the learning process of IM to make a decent living.

    And as many guys already suggested making money from IM takes time unless you go real blackhat or start ewhoring.
     
  8. stang1101

    stang1101 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    56
    what kind of doctor was he?
     
  9. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    He was specialized in anesthetics, I think he also has a large amount of expertise in standard surgery, although it wasn't his primary field, I believe he was required to be present during surgeries when he was the doctor in charge of applying the anesthetic.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2009
  10. thetafmann

    thetafmann Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    16
    He was a doctor and he was only making $4500 a month?
     
  11. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    You are from canada right?

    Well, as you can see, I'm from Portugal, here a doctor earns on average between $4000 - $6000, also, he only had his license for some 2 years and a half, he finished med school late 2006.

     
  12. MrSmith

    MrSmith Newbie

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    88
    8 years down the drain, a good stable income + pension gone too...I hope he had some savings

    Since he's a doctor and has been used to just sticking his nose in a book..Why not just do a law degree now??? IM requires creativity and if he wants to make it big with people under him, it requires leadership and management. Does a doctor have such skills? Leadership potentially, management you can learn, but doing business and going into surgery is two different and opposite things.

    Good luck to him

    PS. after reading more of this thread...Usually a person with a doctorate can also be an anesthesiologist if they carry extensive knowledge. If you hold an MD (Medical Degree), you are trained in all fields; including surgical. However you dont perform life-threatening surgeries...That you wait a couple of years with. That's the UK system --- My mate graduated this year (4 months ago) and can now call himself doctor. He's making 2500/mo., but pay will up to 5000 next year.
    A lot of people wouldn't say that 4-5k/mo is a lot when they need to work long hours (sometimes they have 36 hours shift - yes, they dont sleep for 36 hours!!) and study for 4-5 years (to just get the 'standard degree') and another 3 years to specialise in a field --- But it provides safety and pension. Hence, why I don't understand why the f*** he would jeopardize this by prescribing medicine or w/e he did to a 'friend'. A person with an MD should definitely know better.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2009
  13. keinehabe

    keinehabe Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,207
    Likes Received:
    472
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    -= CEO =-
    Location:
    Heaven
    Home Page:
    relocation I think it's only way to go for the guy , and getting the license back offshore , medical schools from here are pretty easy to get , if he got hes license on us ... with sure he can get it on romania too lol ... I don't think will be any chance for him to get hes license and the job back on us .... (* buying / selling / painting houses isn't a really a dream for a doc .... c'mon that maybe works for a cab driver or some other type of peoples .... but at the end of the day hes a doc ... ) IM ... hard to believe he will can do something online witch can make him equal of hes previous life style ...
     
  14. betster77

    betster77 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    246
    Likes Received:
    237
    $4500 a month for an anesthesiologist? where does he live, Cuba?.... in the States they make that a week at minimum... Anyway, my advise would be to focus on what he knows.. create a product/service and go after his ex-colleagues as a starter.
     
  15. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    See, that's one I don't get about something that I usually see both on BHW and other IM forums, those people who claim to have started working on IM just a few days or weeks ago, and they made like $500 -$1000 with the combined work of 2-3 days, I honestly can't make a decent figure if those claims are BS or if they are actually true, as I've said before, I've been mainly focused on getting a steady income out of IM, basicly writing some articles and doing some freelance work.

    So in one hand we have hundreds of claims of people having $500 days as soon as they start IM, on the other hand we have people saying that a well applied and intelligent person like a doctor can't possible think of starting making $4000 a month on his first months on IM.

    There has to be some sort of middle point here, either we establish that those $500/day claims for beginners are nothing more than BS or we establish that yes, it is very possible for someone applied to start making $4000 a month on his very first IM month.

    What is the main consensus here?
     
  16. stunna

    stunna Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    175
    Occupation:
    PPC Marketing Consultant
    The main consensus is that it's not the method, it's the the person using it.

    There is no substitute for dedication and brains.
     
  17. stang1101

    stang1101 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    56
    anesthetics is exactly what I'm going for now in the States LOL. $300,000 + year.
     
  18. angelas111

    angelas111 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2009
    Messages:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    1,016
    Location:
    ohio
    maybe he should go into research. or maybe he should become a pharma sales rep.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  19. Dillusion

    Dillusion BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    66
    That would be some $25.000 a month, that is a hell of an income, didn't thought the difference could be so major from the E.U to the US.

    That is actually one of the best ideas I've heard so far!
     
  20. sidddd

    sidddd Power Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    460
    He can write blogs.. how to become a med trained pro or sell medical books or medical products online thru affiliate programs as well.

    Also try providing freelancing work on medical articles for clients?