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86-Year-Old Grandmother Billed $5K. Accused of Pirating Zombie Game

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  1. The Scarlet Pimp

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    An Ontario octogenarian has been snared in what’s being called a “dragnet cash grab” following Canada’s institution of new copyright infringement rules. She’s on the hook for $5,000, for allegedly downloading Metro 2033, a first-person shooter video game featuring heavy armament and splattered zombies.

    CBC News Ottawa reports that 86-year-old Christine McMillan was in for a bit of a shock when she received two emails, back in May, forwarded by her ISP, informing her that she was being held accountable for allegedly illegally downloading a game she says she’s never heard of.

    As CBC notes, she’s likely one of thousands of Canadians who’ve received notices to pay up, whether they’re guilty of copyright infringement or not.

    The notices came from a private company called Canadian Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement (CANIPRE)

    As TorrentFreak reports, McMillan is one of hundreds of thousands of Canadians who’ve been accused of copyright infringement under Canada’s “notice and notice” regulations, introduced last year under the Copyright Modernization Act.

    The law requires internet providers to forward copyright infringement notices to customers suspected of illegally downloading content, including video games and movies.

    According to CBC, the supposed copyright infringers are identified only through IP address. ISPs don’t disclose any further information to the copyright enforcers.

    McMillan called the legislation “foolish” and said she “couldn’t believe the government would support” the enforcers “threatening” people over the internet and demanding cash.

    In fact, at first, she thought it was a scam, she told CBC:

    "They didn't tell me how much I owed, they only told me that if I didn't comply, I would be liable for a fine of up to $5,000. and I could pay immediately by entering my credit card number."

    However, it’s all quite legal.

    The owner of CANIPRE, Barry Logan, told CBC that the company ran the wording of the notices past lawyers, and they vetted it for legality.

    McMillan said she’s going to ignore the notices and hope the problem will just go away. Hopefully, taking her to court will prove too expensive for the enforcement company, she said.

    But how did her IP address get tagged in the first place? She has an adult grandson, but he doesn’t have access to her network, she said.
    Who’s shooting mutants with this lady’s IP address?

    Assuming we can take McMillan at her word – that she does not spend her time planted on the couch, enjoying a first-person shooter game featuring dark corridors and splattered guts – then how did her IP address get implicated in the alleged copyright infringement?

    CBC News Ottawa talked to network security analyst and technology expert Wil Knoll, who suggested that somebody who lives in the same apartment building as McMillan could have accessed her unsecured wireless connection, then downloaded the game using her IP address. Alternatively, even if her network had a password, it could have been hacked, he said.

    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/20...er-billed-5k-accused-of-pirating-zombie-game/
     
  2. Adlad

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    How pathethic. Metro 2033 is a $5 game right now, so these mafialike shitheads think they're justified charging someone 1,000 times more? Fine her the full cost of the game and a $100 processing fee or something, that's a big enough deterrent for this sort of case.

    Just shows you what power these people have over our "democratic" governments huh
     
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    noun, plural democracies.
    1.
    government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
    2.
    a state having such a form of government:
    The United States and Canada are democracies.

    Hahahahahahahahahaha
     
  4. The Scarlet Pimp

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    in canada they're fining grannies; in poland they're confiscating computers.
     
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    So is it a fine, or they are threatening to sue her?
     
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    It's like when you get a parking ticket, and it says "you can pay X amount now, or after 30 days Y happens". In this case, X = 5,000 and Y = law suit.

    This lady is fucked if she thinks they won't take her to court over 5grand. In the states they spend 100,000+ to bring a $2,500 pirating case to court, it's absurd.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/07/has-the-riaa-sued-18000-people-or-35000/
     
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    hahah I guarantee that it was her grandson that downloaded that shit.
     
  8. Capo Dei Capi

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    The RIAA was scaring people into paying, if enough decided to go to court, they would have ended the campaign much sooner.
     
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    Its probably her grandson who downloaded that game. Still as "Adlad" said, it is not a new game and only worth a few dollars now.
     
  10. The Scarlet Pimp

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    but some places are giving up...

    Copyright Trolls Abandon Sweden in a Blaze of Bad Publicity

    A legal campaign that promised to hit file-sharers with demands for cash has been abandoned in Sweden. The law firm at the heart of the plan says that it effectively misjudged the gap between public opinion and the fact that file-sharing is illegal under local law.

    In the US, Europe, and Canada, copyright holders have been teaming up with piracy monitoring firms to develop a new flow of revenue. Together they track down alleged pirates and hit them with a demand for cash settlement – or else.

    This so-called ‘copyright-trolling’ hit Sweden earlier this year. An organization calling itself Spridningskollen (Distribution Check) headed up by law firm Gothia Law, said its new initiative would save the entertainment industries and educate the masses.

    “One can compare it to a speed camera. In the same way that a speed camera only records those who drive too fast, only those Internet users who share copyrighted material without permission are logged,” said spokesman Gordon Odenbark.

    Those ‘speeding fines’ were set at around $250 but backed up by threats that they would increase if file-sharers were uncooperative. Predictably there was a huge backlash, both among the public and in the media, but few expected the announcement that came yesterday.

    “Gothia Law, who on behalf of rights holders in the film and television industry created Distribution Check, is now ending its involvement in the file sharing issue,” the firm said.

    “In a short time, Distribution Check has given rise to criticism but also a decline in illegal file sharing. This without a single collection letter being sent out.”

    Noting that in a short time the anti-piracy campaign had generated intense debate, the law firm also went on to claim that it had been a success.

    https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-trolls-abandon-sweden-in-blaze-of-bad-publicity-161101/
     
  11. JosephPegoslavi

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    It doesn't seem cost-effective to sue people who torrent software or music. An album or a game would cost $80, tops.

    Lawyers charge $80 for a five minute meeting.
     
  12. Capo Dei Capi

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    Most people are scared of lawsuits, so they sue the few that don't pay in order to scare many more.
     
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    WTF, fining a granny 5 Grands for something she didn't even do. What the heck is this world moving to.