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60 Domains, one ip?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by switch_2012, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. switch_2012

    switch_2012 Power Member

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    Hi Guys,
    I need a professional advice from an experience member.


    Basically I have 60 domains registered with 123 Reg and just bought a HostGator business plan account to host mentioned domains.


    Now, ‘m on the process of creating WP mini sites (one page article- based on domain keywords) for the 60 domains. Most of the domain names have a common keyword and fall under one industry, eg all related to USB sticks, and all the domain contain the keyword ‘USB'.


    My plan is to create 60 mini sites and have ads (no-follow image ads) on them and are pointing to a one main site, and the question is do they get sandboxed because they are in the same ip?


    I am not planning on doing active seo work on them, however these are aged domain names.

    Could some please advise me on this?

    Kind regards,
     
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  2. wkirk

    wkirk Junior Member

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    They won't get sandboxed, or suffer any kind of penalty just because using the same IP address, the only drawback you can expect that the links between the sites won't carry too much weight. Link them of course but don't expect that 59 links from sites on the same IP will cause too much difference in rankings for site #60.

    This is true even when you spread out the sites on the same class C subnet. ( like 11.22.33.0/24 which is 11.22.33.1 - 11.22.33.254).

    I've seen a huge difference when using totally different address pools for interlinked minisites compared to hosting them on the same IP address, or using a class C subnet. Actually I noticed almost no difference between exact same IP address and 250 IP addresses from the same subnet in the case of a minisite-network.

    So there is no penalty, sandbox, etc, but the links between the network will carry almost zero weight.
     
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  3. sukataetumba

    sukataetumba Senior Member

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    host them on aseohosting to get a different IP per domain and different nameserver per domain.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure about it but G my view your method as a link farm.

    I myself used to interlink my sites, but when I used different hosting accounts at different companies I saw better results in terms of inbound links and rankings, from my own sites, and I can't say this for the sites hosted on the same host/ip.

    I think that you need different ip's or what is called c class hosting or seo hosting if you want results. Also bear in mind that G can track whois data (if public), theme used, and some other factors that may link your sites and your masterplan.
     
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  5. wkirk

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    "c class hosting" won't work. That's still the same subnet. Almost no difference in link juice compared to single IP.


    And I agree that whois data on the domains should always be different so use fake data.

    Also IP addresses have "whois data"... which will be the same for a class C subnet 99% of the time.
    For example:

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    whois 8.8.8.8 |grep -v ^#
    
    Google Incorporated LVLT-GOOGL-1-8-8-8 (NET-8-8-8-0-1) 8.8.8.0 - 8.8.8.255
    
    
    This data will still be the same on a so called "class c hosting".
     
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  6. Cad01

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    Hi, i wouldn't advise you to have 60 sites with just 1 page, even for micro niches it would be better to have atleast 3 pages of content specially if you are going to interlink them because like thetraveller said G could see your method as a link farm, and the part of the whois data is correct, you should try to minimize all the footprint that links all those domains together.
     
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  7. switch_2012

    switch_2012 Power Member

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    Hi guys,



    Thank you for all the info..

    However 'm not going to interlink all the sites, but have image ad links pointing to a one main(money) site.

    The whole idea is to draw traffic into this main site from 60 mini sites. NOT to increase the ranking of the main site.


    So I shouldn?t get done for link farming?
     
  8. Cad01

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    Hi, sorry i didn't understand it right, but even so i dont see any benefits of it, look at it this way, if you still have to buid 60 sites (even if its just 1 page), is it not better to monetize the traffic of each site and try to maximize each visitor and have them click only once in your offer, then to have them click 2 times (1 to go to your main site and then another click to your offer), i think the convertion rate would higher this way. But its just my oppinion because i dont know how you intend to monetize it or anything or if your bigger site is an online store, if so, then what i said before dont apply's.
     
  9. edgematch

    edgematch Elite Member

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    Go to wht, buy 10 hosting accounts each for around $2/month.

    I just wonder why people don't do that.
     
  10. ryanjm

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    Interesting info. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but a C-class IP whois info will just show a datacenter NOC and therefore there will be thousands upon thousands of websites hosted at such a center.

    The reason most people put stock in the c-class as it relates to Google has to do with their patents they filed suggesting that this is the level where they don't have much/any suspicion. Also, in my personal experience, you can get a huge boost in rankings using separate c-class IPs, so I wonder if this "no difference between c-class and just 1-IP" has actually been thoroughly tested.

    Lastly, regarding fake whois info: I would just enable whois privacy. Namecheap offers it for free. Some other registrars offer it for under $5/domain.
     
  11. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Well you should be okay then. But why wouldn't you want to increase traffic and authority to the main site? But anyways, if you just want to send visitors to the main site, then that should be fine. You could even have the links no follow, and will be fine for sure.
     
  12. lislis78

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    Oh interesting, thank you.