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50 Penalty... Get new domain or work out?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nosence, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    I am pretty sure my site got the 50 penalty. its dropped by about that,

    What is they best way to get out of it?

    Would it just be easier to start a new domain, and move content? Its not really and aged domain or have any real value
     
  2. andreybl

    andreybl Registered Member

    New domain, move content, 301 redirect old domain.
     
  3. xstyle

    xstyle Power Member

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    Start over with a new domain, and dont repeat the same misstake that made your site go down in the serp.
     
  4. topdost

    topdost Regular Member

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    Are you 100% sure you have been hit by penalty . if yes how ?
     
  5. Nosence

    Nosence Senior Member

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    Site was ranking well until a few weeks ago when it dropped around 50 in each keyword. was ranking between 3 and 30 for around 15 keywords and is now between 60 and 90

    I am assuming this is a penalty. IS there a way to get out of it? or is just beginning new the only option?
     
  6. topdost

    topdost Regular Member

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    Yes 301 and New is the answer ,

    but first see what have you done onsite , in last few weeks and try to fix that and see for a few days if it helps .

    I wont really suggest to kill it and start new one ... Try to at least fix some issues before you start new .

    Have you checked webmaster tools anything in HTML suggesstions .....
     
  7. verilix

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    People believe 301ing the penalized domain will result in the new domain being penalized as well, which makes sense. If you're going to 301 your old domain to your new domain, then be careful, as you could be screwing yourself before you've even started.
     
  8. topdost

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    I don't agree , 301 can pass the penalty .

    Think if you buy or use a penalized domain , set a 301 redirect to a competitor , it passes the penalty you will be a winner .

    Google wont allow that easy .




     
  9. bertbaby

    bertbaby Elite Member

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    Give it or week or two before pulling the plug. In the meantime it never hurts to have a second site.
     
  10. andreybl

    andreybl Registered Member

    If they look again, yes. It's better to try to figure out why you got banned. If you get -50 penalty they send you a message to your webmaster tools, like this:

    This came to me following a manual check from Google.

    However, 301 redirecting to new domain will not automatically penalize the new domain. Otherwise you could point that redirect to some of your competitor and he would get -50 :p But yes, you have to look at what caused the penalty and stop doing that.
     
  11. SEOWhizz

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    Contact Google by filing a reconsideration request. Find out what the problem is and fix it.

    Yes, if it's not ranking. No point in 301'ing it if it has no value.
     
  12. topdost

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    Agree with first part , fix the problem

    but 301 direct is still good , why waste link juice .... 301 will pass only the good stuff.


     
  13. clint1988

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    sorry, i am a noob but can somebody tell me what a penalty is?
     
  14. daveguy

    daveguy Power Member

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    I was hit by a -50 penalty once after an AMR blast. I added unique 700+ articles for about 2 months and finally came out of it and on the first page.
     
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    Do you know the reason for this penalty ?
     
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    Because the OP has already said that it has no value:
    If there's no "good stuff" there's nothing to pass on. If the domain has no age, authority, backlinks or PR to pass on, there is no point in a 301 redirect, for ranking purposes.
     
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    Just keep building quality links.
    If the site is quality, it will come out of it.
    If the site is shit, doing it all over again will likely end in the same result.
     
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    I didn't say 301ing a penalized domain does pass penalization, I just said some people believe it does, just like some people believe in Google's sandbox. There's nothing wrong with being cautious.
     
  20. kyaw2x

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    I have experience -50 penalty before, what I did is get a new domain and did 301 the old to the new domain. But it doesn't help, the rankings stays for short days in the first page then jump again to 50+ position.