-50 penalty for Youtube videos? Seems like it's happening.

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Well with all honesty, if they really did treat youtube videos as website, most of the affiliate videos would be deindexed due to amount of spam.
I was really dreading of this day and now it's here. First sign, that G will not be protecting YT anymore just for the sake of ownership.
However -50 penalty is still pretty low, considering the blasphemous amount of spam and nonexistent anchor diversity we are using to rank them.
 

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In the old times, your reputation would be -50 for post hunting.
 

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Just my theory and i am not a expert .
May be google is not targeting youtube videos , may be they are targeting spammed to death sites ( aka GSA targets ) . Find how many of your urls are indexed . right click project> Show urls > verified urls > index check or use scrapebox . Google could also have also discounted links from these websites and still kept them indexed . So as a result your ranking dropped , but then my vids should have dropped too (may be they are next in line ) .

it could also be your spun articles .
 

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I thought about what you said about GSA in the morning. That is also a possibility. But if it were true, then every single of my videos would be hit and yours too... which may also happen, but I really hope it won't. And about spun articles... that's posibility too, but I think that for both of these "guideline breaches" it would be more than just -50. I am trying to run some tests now, but I won't be wiser anytime soon.
 

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Welcome to 2014, where YouTube's algo will develop to be just like G's
 

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You are right Nargil.

My videos also dropped -50 in SERP. Their rankings is still the same in Youtube though.

I am trying to figure out what happened.
 

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I'm a bit confused why it would only be -50. If a page was found to be spammed, they normally always slapped it off to dozens of pages back. Maybe it's just a new ranking algo rather than a penalization?
 

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I have no idea what's the issue.

I have noticed that for high competitive keywords my videos dropped way more than -50, some are even nowhere in SERP right now.

They got hit pretty hard.

For less competitive keywords my videos were number 1 on SERP. And now they are on 7th page in SERP.

I am looking at other peoples videos in different popular niches like "fat loss factor" from clickbank, and they are still fine.

Their rankings didn't drop at all.

Weird.
 

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Whatrat - This is exactly what I am wondering. Why just -50? Is this as low as they are willing to go with their own properties?
Jarek - Interesting... so you got videos which disappeared completely? What I see is, that videos which were ranking top 3 and were SHOWN in google when searching for term dropped 4 - 6 pages. Videos which were not as good, like shown on 2nd page are gone.
 

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By the way. It cannot be GSA, cause I don't own it and have never used it for my videos.
 

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Well it's not GSA, it's more like the amount and quality of links that GSA produces. At the moment I am trying to remove links on some of the videos and trying to diversify anchors. That will at least let us know, whether it's link quality based or not. What is your anchor diversity and what kind of links are you building?
 

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Yes Nargil. For certain keywords my videos disappeared completely, but are still on around 7th page for other keywords.

Maybe it's just some algorithm update/change, and they will be back soon.

But all my videos are still very high in Youtube itself, as they were before.

So it's only in SERP.
 

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Nargil - for my "anchor diversity" I have used 100% wide spectrum of hard main keyword, long tail keywords, and suggested terms for this keyword from Google.

No generic anchor texts at all, and no naked URL's.

I have built social bookmarkings, web 2.0, blog comments, high pr links, wiki links, edu links, gov links, plus social signals, yotube embeds etc.
 

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Well this is weird. First time I've seen this. Maybe we should be more careful on doing Blackhat Methods on YT.
 

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I am truly amazed by the amount of people that are surprised, shocked, etc. WTF did you really think, you thought Google was just going to sit back and let YouTube run its course and be controlled by spammers. If you look back at my posts I have been saying this for a while treat your videos like a website, but no, all you see is threads like "how to rank youtube video in a week" or "how to spam youtube video". All I have to say that to those who got there websites deindexed or lost rankings -- Your ignorance came back to bite you.

Well there goes my rant. I recommend all of you that fit the description to quit IM, itmakes my life a lot easier.

Wish you all good luck.
 

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I've been expecting this for quite some time, the damage isn't that terrible, at least not so far and I can recover.
 

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In December I got a video that went from #3 on page 1, then got smacked to nowhere. Maybe this is just Google dancing like always? I say this because I don't see any widespread commenting on this. Warrior Forum has zero threads on this issue. Hmm, dunno.
 

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Today I wanted to buy GSA and accidentally gave me a link to this topic. I am alarmed.
I never could have put the video in the top and do not understand why Google does not let my video.


Now I am very concerned. This may be due to the fact that people do cheat on video views, comments or their likes?
 

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In December I got a video that went from #3 on page 1, then got smacked to nowhere. Maybe this is just Google dancing like always? I say this because I don't see any widespread commenting on this. Warrior Forum has zero threads on this issue. Hmm, dunno.
Nah, it's definitely not a dance. If it were a dance, then video would just not be shown, this way it drops to like 6th page, but it's still showing. It would also be a huge coincidence this happening to... not THAT many people, but still.
Payxander - It's all about how you use GSA, it's amazing piece of software. And well yeh, it could have something to do with "cheating" youtube as well. Something like "just in case we won't push them off youtube, let's penalize them" approach,
 

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Today I asked about this many internet marketers!


All of them well with the video. Got here are the answers:

"maybe google started to look for more quality links in youtube videos, then just trashed links from softwares(like google does ranking websites)."

"I'll keep watching it but I have not seen affect of this with my vids"
 
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