1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

-50 penalty for Youtube videos? Seems like it's happening.

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Nargil, Feb 23, 2014.

  1. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    A few hours ago I still thought that it is impossible to get any kind of penalty when it comes to youtube videos.
    However it seems that I was wrong. This has to be new though. And it's definitely not any kind of a dance. Screenshot shows just some of those hit videos I own. Your thoughts on this?

    Penalty.png
     
  2. stharthjw6j

    stharthjw6j BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2013
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    250
    Interesting, I don't know what to make of it. Did you post the same question on the GSA forum? If not, then there are 2 instances of this problem this morning, which might be significant. If that was you though, then so far it's only you, which means it might be something unique to you to pinpoint.
     
  3. foitoi

    foitoi Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2013
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    53
    I don't have the problem like you but, in the last 2 weeks I'm unable to rank a video on Google for some reason. :(
     
  4. Tommy Lawrence

    Tommy Lawrence Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    402
    Occupation:
    Online marketing
    Location:
    New York
    Very strange indeed. Haven't heard of this before
     
  5. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    No, I haven't posted anything on the GSA forum, but I found the thread mentioning it.
    It seems to be algorithm penalty, though it makes me wonder. A lot of the videos, where I used identical method and even identical backlinks, so it's either anchor diversity or onsite SEO. Otherwise I have no idea what could be the problem. It's pretty sad, that so far it's just me and some guy from Gsa forum.
     
  6. Winternacht

    Winternacht Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    46
    it's not just you, almost all of the youtube videos i'm watching are off the first page, serpbook hasn't updated yet, but if i check manually they are gone, some of my videos are still on first page.
     
  7. umerjutt00

    umerjutt00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,644
    Likes Received:
    1,904
    Occupation:
    Ninja
  8. Winternacht

    Winternacht Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    46
    for me it's the first drop of rankings since i rank youtube videos (1+ year)
     
  9. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    This is the first time I've ever experienced something like this with Youtube videos. It's definitely some kind of a penalty, drops are mostly -50 and the videos are showing, but on 5th or 6th page. Serpbook is updating slowly, but when checked manually, they are mostly gone. Both old and new videos, the newest one which got hit is like 2 months old. The newest ones are still sticking though. Videos are still ranking in Youtube serps as they were.
     
  10. gehashel

    gehashel Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2010
    Messages:
    139
    Likes Received:
    33
    Location:
    RO
    All my videos that are 3-6 months old dropped 50 positions today..:(
     
  11. stharthjw6j

    stharthjw6j BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2013
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    250
    What kinds of links campaigns were you making for those videos? It may be that G isn't giving a pass to spammed YT videos anymore. But I'd need more info to make that judgement.
     
  12. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    As you can presume, it was straightforward tierless spam with GSA. Using main keywords as anchor text only. However not all of the videos got hit. Some old ones, where I was using stuff like 100K scrapebox blast are still there. And even some blasted with GSA.
     
  13. Winternacht

    Winternacht Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    46
    i was basically just running gsa ser directly with no tiers with alot of contextual links but it seems spamming like its 2008 won't work anymore with yt.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    Yeh, my engine selection is similar to that of Winternacht.
     
  15. PaperToy

    PaperToy Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    88
    Are you surprised? Google owns Youtube, so it was about time they change or update their algorithm.
     
  16. stharthjw6j

    stharthjw6j BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2013
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    250
    Hmm, it does look like something has happened, let's wait & see what other reports we get now to get a clearer picture of it.

    Nargil, was anything different with your videos that didn't get hit? Maybe they still will but let's get as much info as we can for now. The more info we have, the better we can fix it.
     
  17. TheUnborn

    TheUnborn Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    Messages:
    3,041
    Likes Received:
    1,672
    Occupation:
    SEO Consultant
    Home Page:
    My videos are still up ,using GSA,lets see for some days and i'll post back if i get hit
     
  18. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    At the moment I am trying to compare those hit videos with those which were not hit, but so far it's confusing.
    I think we can almost rule out Onsite optimization penalty. My density was sometimes around 10%, but one of the members pointed out to me, that he got hit even with around 3 - 4% density.
    At the moment I am collecting data, I will need an hour or so. I used same methods, some videos got penalty some did not. I can't tell any difference between them from top of my head.

    TheUnborn: What is your Anchor diversity + Onsite density?
     
  19. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    762
    Location:
    Europe
    Home Page:
    I think we can rule out Onsite SEO really.
    Checked some of my vids. Vids with density of 11, 10, 11, 8, 14 got hit. Vids with density of 17 or 38 percent did not. So I doubt it has anything to do with this.
    Another thing that occured to me is a possible p0rn links penalty. Sometimes you can't really rule out such sites when using GSA, even though you are trying. But imo it's because of the heavy spam. Not even anchor diversity, just low quality links penalty.
     
  20. qlithe

    qlithe Power Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2012
    Messages:
    614
    Likes Received:
    96
    my videos often dance from top10 to nowhere back and forth before they settle

    how old are the videos? are you still building links?