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5 pages site outrank me

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jelly91, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. jelly91

    jelly91 BANNED BANNED

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    shit man, domain reg last month but in page 1 today?! I spend over hundreds for content and do silo, interlinking etc but a blog with 5 pages with few links from china.edu outranked me?! Google is sick!
     
  2. neweaver

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    He might have hidden links ranking the site. Maybe his on page is better, maybe you are keyword stuffing. Who knows? Lol
     
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    Do amount of pages really matter? I know of sites ranking with just a short paragraph and a couple images linking to landing pages.
     
  4. JasonS

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    Who knows, if he is using 301 redirect from aged and good backlink profile domain to this new one??
     
  5. lord1027

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    Maybe it's just a C&B project and it won't last..
     
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    May be he blocks the link tool or redirect 301
     
  7. BuildMoreLinks

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    the best way to find is trying to analyze the backlinks from Ahrefs and come on some conclusion.
     
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    How about if the guy blocks Ahrefs backlink tool too?
     
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    How is your on-site seo? Do you have any .edu back links? What is the #1 websites TF and what is yours? How many outgoing links do you have?
     
  10. jelly91

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    what is TF? shit my site have the same ahrefs rank with him, but he just have 12 referring domain. those article he use is crap and unrelated, shit im paying huge for related niche pbn!
     
  11. Maser

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    Trust flow...it's a metric from Majesticseo DOT com
     
  12. ThopHayt

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    Could be how you do a million things. MS content, loading times, age, domain, anchor text, a million things. How long have you been trying to rank this?
     
  13. jelly91

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    I have won on most of the mentioned factors..
     
  14. mrmiagisdude

    mrmiagisdude Newbie

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    Its not that simple, there are several things to consider. And more over, you cannot always analyze your competition 100% as they could hide several things from public eye.
     
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    Maybe this is not a fresh reg but had a site on it for years... Then Google sees it as aged.
     
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    The moz backlink tracker seems to be the best one at discovering 301-s (despite Ahrefs being the best overall) - I don't know why that is.

    Anyway if you can't find 301-d domains pointing toward the site you can safely assume he has a large pbn which has its robots.txt set to disallowing robots other than google from crawling the site.
     
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    Since How Long he is ranking above you ? could be churn and burn
     
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    It can take quite a while for backlink checkers to discover and record 301 redirects. Therefore, even if he's using 301 redirects, they probably won't be visible in backlink checkers now.
     
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