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$40 Fiver Gig?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by nigel44, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    So I go on Fiver and look for someone to redesign one of my sites.
    I pick a guy pay him and he does a great job.
    I tell him the site looks great and I really like it.
    So then he says he needs another Gig to do the "Hard" part.
    OK says I and pays him again and then he sends me the finished HTML version of the site.
    So then I ask him if I paid him for another Gig would he install his new design onto my site.
    Then he says Yes but it will cost me another 6 gigs.
    So he wants another $30, well I have been sitting here thinking about it and it is bugging me.
    I mean the site is called Fiver is it not?
    Do you guys think I am being a cheapskape not wanting to pay him or should I just pay him?
    What you think?
     
  2. huykun

    huykun Regular Member

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    Why don't you just do it yourself? It's literally $0, is it not?
     
  3. nikao

    nikao Power Member

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    let me get this straight; you are doubting to spent 40$ on a redesign of your site? ?!
     
  4. extremephp

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    You should simply pay him if you think the job is worth it. It is fiverr, but what you asked, i.e installing the design wasnt his gig. You asked for something, and if the price seems Ok, you should pay him.

    Had many occasions where I took guys out of fiverr to skype to make things go smooth. But people who are serious on fiverr doesnt do that since that is risking their account, and hence asks to order multiple gigs / Gig Plus, or whatever it is called.
     
  5. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    Yes it was his gig to redesign the site and yes he did a great job. No arguments on that score.
    $40 is not a lot I agree to redesign the site it just annoys me is all.
    And if i could do it myself I would have my own gig on Fiver wouldnt I
     
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    Fiverr is really modern slave labor. Wanting everything for giving almost nothing. Damn, you get a whole redesign for which my old company would charge min. 1k €. Additionally he seems to be one of the few people who delivers quality. If he really delivers quality it is far more value as some dirty $40.
     
  7. daserpent

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    You should definitely pay him for the work. Honestly, $40 for a site redesign and installation is a very good deal. It would cost of hundreds of dollars to get it done from some other online company.

    Just because its Fiverr, doesn't mean that the other guy will do everything possible for just $5. And he doesn't even get $5, he gets only $4 per gig after the fiverr fees of $1. So you are actually just paying him $32. AND when he cashes out the $32, he will be subjected to Paypal fees for 3% as well. Just giving you the whole picture.
     
  8. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    Ok you have persuaded me I will pay him his dosh after all he earned it and you have made some good points, Heck I will get him to do another 4 of them.
    You made me feel like a right mean Bastard now.
    Just needed to hear it from someone elses point of view
     
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  9. daserpent

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    That would be very considerate of you indeed. I have been a fiverr seller as well and I know what 90% of the sellers really go through :)
     
  10. subster

    subster Elite Member

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    Yeah, me too. But am leaving this lousy biz as it takes more time than expected. Anyone interested in a level 2 account? ;)
     
  11. johndoejohndoe

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    It is slave labor, what costs $5 these days, a couple of liters of soda? People are being desperate and/or greedy because of the hard times we're in. No one would undercut themselves this short, so 3/4 of the time I think it's just kids trying to make money. It's why you see all the SEO stuff for dirt cheap. I'm not sure what a real solution would be but something needs to be done.

    After testing the waters I've found some gigs I offer weren't worth the $5 fee. I started stating it would be at least $15 to start. $40 is a bargain price for what you want done, not to mention what you already have had done.

    Message everyone else on fiverr and see if you can get it done for $5. ;) I'm sure there's a sucker out there, because there's a ton of providers. Not to mention cheap Indian and other foreigners who think the money is worth it for the time because their country's min. wage is so low. At least that's my take on what is going on.
     
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    Same here pal! ;)
     
  13. nikao

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    I agree in regards to this gig, but on general there are many gigs you can think of that are still worth it also from the seller point of view. Especially since you can get some nice contacts with people who you can do business with outside of fiverr.
     
  14. The Nix

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    Can you please give a link to this Fiverr gig? :)
     
  15. nigel44

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    I see where you are coming from johndoe but I would never take advantage in that way.
    I know for a fact that some so called "Gurus" can only afford to sit on the beach most of the day because they have a Philipino work force at their beck and call.
    The gap between the rich and poor grows ever wider as each day passes and I am sure that there are plenty of people willing to exploit the situation and that just perpetuates the problem.
    The systems that we have in place now will all be gone in 50 years because they simply can not last, its what comes after that scares the hell out of me, even though I will not be around to see it
     
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    I could not disagree more. Sites and services like this allow people to make more money than they could make otherwise. Don't forget that there are still many countries where the majority of the people are struggling to make a living and earn $1-$3 a day..
     
  18. SaraJ

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    I think it's all in how you approach it.

    It's not $5 for each unit of something that you purchase on fiverr.

    If you wanted 10 articles for example, you can't expect an article writer to do all 10 in one gig just because it's a site centered around a $5 price tag. It would likely be 10 for $50.

    Therefore if you are going to have additional work done, it may cost more than $5 but it's completely fair.
     
  19. nigel44

    nigel44 Registered Member

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    And do you think that they will carry on being grateful and watching pictures of the obese wobbling along while they remain hungry or worse.
    No change is coming and not before time
     
  20. xoskillet

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    I see a lot of minimum wage mentality in this thread (yeah - i'm ready for the flames).

    If someone offers to do a job for $5 or $1, or $50 ... it is up to me (the consumer) to decide which i will hire for the job.

    No one is forcing people to work on fiverr... they placed that $5 value on their work themselves.

    While i agree in general with the motion of this thread (being - if you as the consumer think its a fair price, just pay it), i also think that the op could pretty easily just pay some other fiverr gig to install his site for him for a single gig of $5.

    This doesnt make him cheap, it makes him a consumer looking for the best deal.

    The market decides what prices should be, and it is the (everyone should get an amount no lower than??? ) people who fuck up an otherwise free economy.

    here's the deal, i dont care where in the world you are from or what it takes for you to make a living where ever you live, if you offer a product or service i am looking for cheaper than anyone else, and i feel like i'll get the same quality from you as i would from anyone else, then i'm going to buy from you.

    if you can't survive on what you are charging, dont charge that amount... dont bitch because you are hungry and cant pay your bills because all of those cheap bastards keep ordering from you and under paying you.... you are the one who set the price, not the buyer, you, the seller.