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301 Redirecting Aged Domains

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zee007, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    This is something I've been thinking about for a while. Say I buy a kick ass aged domain. Now I 301 redirect it to my site. Now the questions is, should I redirect the whole domain to my site (essentially homepage) or do it on a page-by-page basis? I was always under the impression that 301 redirecting happens on a page by page basis, but can you do that when you buy a domain?
     
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    Yes of course. You can 301 expired domain to your money site directly from your domain registrar. It doesn't have to be related to your niche and you don't need to set it up in cPanel and then redirect via .htaccess. Also, you don't need to set it up on page-by-page basis when you're redirecting through your domain control panel.
     
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    zee007 Senior Member

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    Right. But then the WHOLE domain would be redirected to my homepage. I'm guessing there's no way to redirect the inner pages etc? So what happens to all the links that were going to the inner pages of the expired domain? Those just become broken once the domain expires and lose value, correct?
     
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    Not exactly. When Google tries to crawl those pages on your money site(after 301), it'll show up as 404's which you'll basically have it configured to point to your homepage/sitemap so all those sub-pages authority will still pass to whatever page you set for the 404 pages. If you're worried about this, you can create a virtual host aka add-on domain on your cPanel and setup a simple Wordpress site and let it sit for a couple of weeks. After 2 weeks, open your RAW access log and filter out all the 404 hits from the spiders and redirect them to homepage with .htaccess plus redirect the homepage to your money site. Just make sure both expired domain and money site domain are hosted on different hosting accounts on different IPs and subnets.
     
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    braindebug Junior Member

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    Why is that? I bet that google already knows that whoever does a redirect owns both domains. That's the point of the redirect anyway isn't it?
     
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    nandrase Newbie

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    But question is: should he 301 redirect whole domain or is it better to pin-point several most linked pages and only 301 them to money site.

    That question bothers me as I have same issue - my site has 20 000 links pointed to it, all come from domain with DA 89. Should I 301 only most linked pages or whole damn thing?

    thx
     
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    Openside Power Member

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    Can't you do a wildcard redirect so that all pages will direct to your new domain?
     
  8. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    Well this is my question. When you buy a domain, you get just that www.domain.con, but what about all the inner pages of the domain that were receiving lots of links? How can I take control of that is my question? Even if you "reach out" to all the sites that are linking to the bought domain, there in no guarantee they will link to you since the site has changed and may be even the content.

    So going back to the original question, how does one gain access to or control all the inner pages of a newly purchased aged domain?
     
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    Add this to the .htaccess file hosted at the expired domain:

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    RewriteEngine OnRewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
    RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.example.com [R=301,L]
    That will 301 every single link pointing to that domain to one single URL.
     
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    I'm taking an educated guess at what you're looking for - I don't think you've had the right answer just yet.

    The problem is that if you blindly wildcard redirect all links to their exact variant on the new site.

    eg:

    www.domain1.com/page1

    will be 301'd to

    www.domain2.com/page2

    This is cool you're looking to literally copy and paste the old website to the new domain, sucks of you're building a new site because you'll get 404 errors (Both human and Bot) as people follow links to the old site and those old pages have been changed / moved.

    The best solution, is to redirect all page requests for the old site to the new websites homepage.

    The .htaccess will look a bit like this:

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    RewriteEngine OnRewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
    RewriteRule ^(.*)$ [URL="http://www.domain.com"]http://www.thenewdomain.com[/URL] [R=301,L]
     
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    sudorank Power Member

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    Lol, sorry - didn't realise you'd beaten me to it ha ha! :cool:
     
  12. zee007

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    Thanks guys! But do you think its wise to 301 redirect ALL links of the expired domain to the homepage? What if I have certain relevant inner pages that the old site could point to? That would make the SEO juice flow evenly to inner pages versus just 301 redirecting everything to the homepage.

    This could be a real mess for people who buy very aged domains that may have broken links all across the web.