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301 Redirect to New domain passes full link juice?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by leena, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. leena

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    Hey guys

    i have this 14 months old website which ranks top 10 for targeted keywords, i just purchased an exact match domain for a big keyword with one of the new extensions available now a days (eg. - .services) , so my question is if everything is setup properly, will i get my current ranks within 1-2 weeks of doing the 301 redirect to the new domains and maybe better rankings since this time it has keyword in the domain..... ?

    My current domain does not have keyword in domain and ranks around #8-10 spot, so i was just wondering if redirected to exact match domain it will pass on 100% link juice...?

    I had to do similar thing 1 year ago when my site that ranked #5 received trademark notice , i 301 redirected it to a new 5 months old domain and it moved from #5 to #1 for 2 million search a month keyword, it was blessing in disguise , just wondering if anyone tried this stuff recently?

    Reason i want to move domain is because my current domain has low CTR and i am hoping with keyword in domain it will atleast double the CTR and also increase rankings in long run.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. leena

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    anyone?
     
  3. vinchenson

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    Interesting question, I up your thread bc im interested aswell
     
  4. TheMoneyHat

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    Good question - love to know as well...
     
  5. littlewebdragon

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    I have tested this about month/two or so approx with one site ranking best as it could, for some terms even before official site. And I've got following results.

    For a week straight everything was perfect. After that, rankings dropped and site kept dancing instead at #1-#3 or so for couple of keywords on at about #7-#20 at new domain/productname. That was straight 301 effect.

    So it was there, but not fully recovered, but sort of 70-80% from what I could wildly guess. So pure 301 didn't pass over 100% effect on this new website.
     
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  6. Skbansal000

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    In my Opinion, Full Link juice will Pass with 301 Redirection. I have done this with one of my Long Term website and it Works well. Within, 14 days or so I got my all Organic Keywords ranking on SERP. You can do this way. Hope this helps :)
     
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  7. leena

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    Thanks for the replies guys, i am gonna take this gamble, currently my site makes $1000 a month in profit from bing traffic, if i do the 301 i am expecting that $1000 a month income to wipe off but i am expecting better google ranks, i will keep you guys updated.
     
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    Why you change your domain, if you CTR is low. Then you have to change your website meta Tittle and meta description.
     
  9. leena

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    There are actually few reasons i want to do it.. not just ctr
     
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    juice passes but penalties do too
     
  11. redarrow

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    Correct info and code to use.....

    Summary of existing answers plus my own two cents:

    1. Basic answer
    You can use the header() function to send a new HTTP header, but this must be sent to the browser before any HTML or text (so before the <!DOCTYPE ...> declaration, for example).

    header('Location: '.$newURL);
    2. Important details
    die() or exit()

    header("Location: http://example.com/myOtherPage.php");
    die();
    Why you should use die() or exit(): The Daily WTF

    Absolute URL

    The URL must be an absolute. See RFC 2616. But in most cases a relative URL will be accepted too.

    Status Codes

    PHP's "Location"-header still uses the HTTP 302-redirect code, but this is not the one you should use. You should consider either 301(permanent redirect) or 303 (other).

    Note: W3C mentions that the 303-header is incompatible with "many pre-HTTP/1.1 user agents. Currently used browsers are all HTTP/1.1 user agents. This is not true for many other user agents like spiders and robots.

    3. Documentation
    HTTP Headers and the header() function in PHP

    4. Alternatives
    You may use the alternative method of http_redirect($url); which needs the PECL package pecl to be installed.

    5. Helper Functions
    This function doesn't incorporate the 303 status code:

    function Redirect($url, $permanent = false)
    {
    header('Location: ' . $url, true, $permanent ? 301 : 302);

    exit();
    }

    Redirect('http://example.com/', false);
    This is more flexible:

    function redirect($url, $statusCode = 303)
    {
    header('Location: ' . $url, true, $statusCode);
    die();
    }
    6. Workaround
    As mentioned header() redirects only work before anything is written out. They usually fail if invoked inmidst HTML output. Then you might use a HTML header workaround (not very professional!) like:

    <meta http-equiv="Location" content="http://example.com/">
    Or a Javascript redirect even.

    window.location.replace("http://example.com/");

    How to do it in htacess

    https://mediatemple.net/community/p...w-do-i-redirect-my-site-using-a-htaccess-file


    How to do it as mod rewrite

    https://www.sslshopper.com/apache-redirect-http-to-https.html



    A lot of marketers use a short url and then redirect to a free web host and then redirect from there to the sales page

    "" here a memberwebdite from this forum that provides many short url to use to short any url

    https://theseotools.net/bulk-url-shortener ""

    All the above and included links work
    As needed .

    If u need anythink more powerfull , then your need to use a cloaking service , it about $150 /m , but all the codes above are the same codes they use to create there own cloaking service.

    You might also need to learn
    Md5 encryption or badeencode64() to hide url info .

    Base64 info , encode and decode

    http://php.net/manual/en/function.base64-encode.php

    You also might need to learn regular regular expression To make sure url is in it correct format ......

    Regex examples .

    https://www.tutorialspoint.com/php/php_regular_expression.htm

    And php book ways

    http://php.net/manual/en/reference.pcre.pattern.syntax.php

    Looks hard but it not once studied it....

    Hope it helps
     
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  12. drogon

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    Why risk $1k USD a month guaranteed? You can simply use the $1k USD a month and reinvest it into the 2nd site and build that one up on Google! And now you have 2 sites making you money! One in Bing, the other in Google.
     
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  13. Scorpion2

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    I agree with this... why not just make a new site and use the sure $1000 to that you will get to build links for the new site eventually maybe you will own multiple spots on first page of google.
     
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  14. darulez

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    some here dont get the problems when keywords are in the domain.... but I leave those experiences up to you.
     
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    If you do the 301 and add it on GWT as a address change it passes 100% of the rankings and juice.

    If you do 301 outside GWT it will depend on how much pot Rank Brain smoked on that particular day. Anything can happen, including the old domain overriding the new one and hte SERPs showing both for a long time. It's a clusterfuck when this happens.
     
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  16. leena

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    It takes atleast 1 year to get top spots on google in this niche, i cant find a single site less then 18 months old on top 10. So making new site means spending another 18 months which sucks. Google traffic/revenue potential in this niche is around $30k a month plus i am sure i will also get some kind of rankings on bing as well, i dont think bing will completely remove the site but 301 rules be different for them, will study it before redirecting.
     
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    Hi Man please keep us posted for the result. 301 redirection 100% passing the link juice is always an issue. Im interested on how long would it take to totally pass the link juice and would it entirely pass the link juice.
     
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    Well, this is more like a academic discussion
    Technically, 301 redirects do pass full link juice
    But there are several other factors influcing ranking, since you expect an url containing full keyword will bring positive influence
    some other factors like domain history may bring negative ones
    so not 100% guaranteed
     
  19. drogon

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    Well if the existing site is not ranking, then 301 to kw rich domain will not make a difference to increase ranking as all you will get at best is thesame old ranking of the non kw domain. I tried this myself not too long ago with a site ranking no.8 without kw, and 301 to a domain with the keyword and ended up at no.10 rank. So the kw in the domain name is not as important as you might think. So from the sounds of it if you ranking page 3 or 4 and expect page 1 cause you switched to kw domain then you are very wrong and might even end up with worse rankings!
     
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    It ranks #8-10 positions for all keywords, i dont mind if position remains same for few months as eventually i am expecting EMD to response much faster in rankings as i see many sites with EMD always getting a favor from google, not much, but atleast 10% from what i can see.