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301 redirect penalized domain to brand new domain - does it help recover the site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hobokook, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. hobokook

    hobokook Newbie

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    I've read that if you have an algorithmic penalty, doing a 301 redirect from your penalized site to a brand new site will lift the penalty and recover your site.

    Is this true? Has anyone ever had experience with this?
     
  2. dinkish

    dinkish Power Member

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    You'd be redirecting all the backlinks that you were penalized for in the first place, so I highly doubt it, however never tried it.
     
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    Im doing the same at the minute myself.. I had a domain that's obviously suffering from an algorithmic penalty. It must have gotten the penalty while it still had very few links, so i continued to build good quality blog network links to it.. more than enough to get it out of the rut it was in, but still it stayed in 20th or so position.

    So finally last weekend i decided to redirect it to a new domain (knowing that the backlink profile was ok), and the new domain came in on the second page, but the homepage has since disappeared from the serps, while an inner page is showing on the third page.

    Not all the pages are indexed yet, but i guess ill just have to wait and see what happens next..
     
  4. iglow

    iglow Elite Member

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    it doesnt help anymore. dont try this at home kids.
     
  5. verilix

    verilix Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I tried it 3 months ago, and my new site took all the penalized site's rankings for 2 months. Was fantastic. However, the penalty eventually caught up. So now, I'm just building links and waiting it out.
     
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    301ing to a new site will get it ranked well for a while, but after a month or two or more eventually it will get caught up and penalized. Don't do it if its a long term site. Just build quality links like Verilix said and alter your method.
     
  7. Nigel Farage

    Nigel Farage BANNED BANNED

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    So then what keeps a person from simply redirecting the penalized site to a new site every two months? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
     
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    Yes it will help, .htaccess 301 redirect and set up Google webmaster for change of address.
     
  9. crazedspyker

    crazedspyker Senior Member

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    I don't know how people are getting 2 months of penalty free from redirecting (that would be so sweet if I could get that). When I redirect to new site, it gets its ranks back for about 3-4 days before the penalty transfers over. I just use a wordpress cloning tool to do it over and over. Totally worth it for this one site because 4 days means 20x my investment back (domain + 10 minute to create clone).
     
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    It may last longer/shorter durations per individual, but there would be nothing stopping you from redirecting that frequently. I would, but it's a long-term website and I want to create a name for it. So, gotta wait it out.
     
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    This method is not working any more.
     
  12. Sristy

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    I believe it depends upon what kind of penalty you received, if it is a manual action then the penalty transfer would be within couple of days of redirection. However, how did you manage to keep the rankings of the old site redirected for 2 months.
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    What kind of penalty was your site suffering from, manual or algorithmic, over optimisation of backlink anchors, EMD penalty, over optimisation of on-page keywords ?
     
  13. SEO LORD

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    If you do 301 redirect towards new site it does not penalize your new site
     
  14. SerpEvil

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    it worked once for me in same case,new site got better rank after i 301 penalized domain to it.i did it many times but only once worked.
     
  15. StirlingMedia

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    I have one site that makes a lot of money so I literally keep buying a new domain and 301 the previous one to it every 3-4 weeks.

    After I 301 to new domain it normally takes about 5 days and it is ranking just as good as before :)
     
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    I ave found that 301 works better and lasts longer if the new site has some backlinks already. If no backlinks, effect is quick but very short.