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301 redirect boost to a new site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Pyramid, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. Pyramid

    Pyramid Newbie

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    If I make a new website about "blackhat seo",

    and buy and aged website about "whitehat seo" and 301 redirect it to my new "blackhatseo" site,

    whitehatseo.com(1 year old)--->blackhatseo.com(1 month old)

    does it help my new website rank well in google. maybe because they are in similar topic?


    Is it possible to use 301 redirect wisely for blackhat purposes?
     
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  2. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    As long as the older domain has a lot of off-site seo and site promotion then yes it should help. All of the backlinks pointing to whitehatseo.com should eventually be indexed for blackhatseo.com, but remember a 301 redirect doesn't instantly change your sites placement in the serps. As the googlebots search the sites in the indexes, every time it follows a backlink that is redirected to your new site then it will make an adjustment in the index. Sometimes that can take months.

    From a traffic standpoint though, if any of the backlinks are providing real traffic, then those visitors will be redirected instantly. So potentially doing a redirect from an older site could start providing some traffic right away, and then after a little more time help with raising the newsite pr and it's position in the serp.
     
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  3. francoisbretier

    francoisbretier Junior Member

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    just for exemple a 301 can index you in google in 1 day maximum 2 because you are new after you gone away and need to do it every day (because i use the same domain) :D
     
  4. GreyWolf

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    Well just getting indexed isn't the issue. It's easy enough to get indexed within hours if you want, and you don't need a redirect to accomplish it. Getting a higher placement in the SERP is a little more work. That's the reason for the 301, to take advantage of getting your site indexed in relationship to all those existing backlinks to the old domain. This will help not just getting you indexed, but moving your site up in the SERP, as well as helping build some PR value for your site.

    OP - to answer your question regarding using a 301 for blackhat purposes, sure it will work. Yes, there are lots of ways to use redirects for bh purposes. They won't usually work for long term success, but most bh methods are looking for short term results anyway so it doesn't really matter. Search the forums and you'll find lots of things to do.
     
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  5. oldscribe

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    GreyWolf,

    If a 301 redirect is used to pass on link juice and push the directed site up the SERPS how long it is effective.

    Your comment seem to say it was short term ... but how long is that ...

    Should the 301 be used on the on the local server or should it be a Domain Forward at the Registrar ???

    Thank you
     
  6. Tcm9669

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    I don't think that it matters where, a 301 redirect is still a 301 redirect.
     
  7. milwaukeeseo

    milwaukeeseo Newbie

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    Maybe someone can help clear this up. My understanding is that if you have a very old site say 4 or 5 years old and you do a 301 redirect to a newer site Google sees the new site with the age of the other one. This would give you a stronger presence and allow you to drive more backlinks etc. It would also help the serps because it would be considered an older domain and more authority.
     
  8. hardinflash

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    I wonder how much truth is in that. if that was the case then wouldn't all these people that are purchasing aged domains to blast with xrumer and get ranked high quickly just do that to also gain the advantage of having the keywords in the domain as well as the bennefits of an aged domain?
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  9. bokeboke

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    could we quicken the pace that Google passes the old link juice to our new site by bookmarking and pinging the old links?
     
  10. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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    Here is some information on 301 straight from the horses mouth.

    you*tube.c*m/watch?v=70LR8H8pn1M

    some interesting info. not sure if it pertains to your case though.