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2011 Bluehatseo based strategy to rank high competition KW, experts please critic

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by fathobbitsss, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    Hi all, below is a 2011 strategy for ranking in high competition niches which I based off of bluehatseo.com, and tutorial posts on this forum and others. This is a compilation of second hand information from 3 months worth of reading and a little 1st hand experience. As I am new to the game and have done modest testing, could pros please spare a moment to leave your thoughts, feedback and answers to questions. Hopefully we can turn this into an updated resource for all beginners/intermediates.

    Link building requires "1. Authoritive Links 2. Relevant Links 3. Link Volume 4. Link Timing." - Eli bluehatseo*com/blue-hat-technique-16-link-laundering-sites


    1. Authoritative links

    So for Authoritative Links let's split it up into links from authority domains, and high Authority/PR page links


    1.a. Links from authority domains


    - Wikipedia links using Eli's method specified at bluehatseo*com/wikipedia-links-pt-2-the-semi-automated-white-hat-way/


    - Edu backlinks on forums, blogs and wikis found via Scrapebox footprints


    - here's one for wikis: "log in / create account" mediawiki site:.edu


    - high quality PAD submissions to PR 8-9 sites


    - Don't know how to do this, if someone may enlighten us?


    1.b High PR page links


    - PR 6+ manual blog commenting, ideas for finding high PR blogs include:
    - using generic blog posts on high PR forums as foot prints, or using a unique and repeated username of a specific comment poster. e.g: ?BestAntivirusSoftware*co*nz is New Zealand?s No.1 FREE"
    - using a comment luv footprint:
    intitle:"%KW%" +?commentluv? +"2..100 Responses"
    "%KW%" +'title=?CommentLuv Enabled?' +"2..100 Responses"
    "%KW%" +?Commentluv Enabled? +"2..100 Responses"
    "%KW%" +?Enable Commentluv? +"2..100 Responses"
    "%KW%" +?Enter YourName? +"2..100 Responses"
    "%KW%" +?KeywordLuv? +"2..100 Responses"


    - Plain old scrape on niche related keywords and then filter for high PR domains


    - Could blog comments experts please contribute more methods, and provide opinions on which are the most effective methods?


    - Buying high PR blog network links
    - I am seeing a lot of my competitors doing this, I am tried this myself with limited success


    - on several of the networks advertised here and on other SEO forums, though only for 1 month


    - How big of a factor is link age in high PR blog network links? What are some of the best high PR blog networks that you have tested, and what were you're results? Do they work?


    2. Relevant Links (both low and high PR).

    Let's split this up into relevant links hosted on other domains, and a self hosted mininet


    2.a. Relevant links externally hosted


    - Buy high PR blog post links with 70%+ spun content or unique content


    - Distribute posts on Build My Rank, Article Ranks, Unique Article Wizard + other subscription blog networks


    - Establish web 2.0 blogs with video embed, and distribute PDF, and PPT files


    - Pump up the above three items with Xrummer and Scrapebox links from a private list of blogs/forums, then index the links with twitter backlinks + Pligg/BMD bookmarks + RSS ping.


    - What is the best way of indexing profile links? I am reading that Twitter indexing is ultra powerful at the moment, whilst RSS/Bookmarks are failing?

    - How effective is a private Xrummer/Scrapebox list verses a public list. I am assuming it is over 10 times more effective, as I am seeing 10 times less OBLs on lists which I have scraped myself.


    - What are the best quality subscription blog networks according to your testing/results?


    - Should I use AMR to pump as well? (I am leaving out AMR because I don't think it pumps as much link juice as Xrummer/Scrapebox and isn't time efficient to run)


    - Should I bother with the web 2.0 links or are high PR blog network links better / good enough alone?

    2.b. Establish a mini net of 10 PR 3-5 satellite sites


    i. Mini net will be established via purchasing expiring domains (with good backlink profiles, and not in spammy niches) on TDNAM found on freshdrop.com. Sites in mini net will then have 5 articles uploaded, based previous content from way back machine. Sites will then be put on standard link building: BMR drip + bookmarks + web 2.0s + Xrummer/Scrapebox spam on second tiers and also on original/old backlinks.


    - Is the above enough to maximise chances of link juice being preserved? Someone else mentioned preserving the same Who Is data and name servers, how would you do this? Would you register with fake Who Is info that is similar to the previous owner, and register with the DNS host that was previously used (or if not then register with one that has similar IP). Is fake Who Is + not changing DNS necessary or is just putting up original content from Alexa enough?


    ii. Mini-net will be used to barter for links from competitors in the same niche, but different sub niches or geographies. Again kudos to Eli for this idea.


    3. Link volume


    i. Drip spam high PR Xrummer/Scrapebox links from non public lists


    ii. Drip spam BMD social bookmarks
    - Eli suggested to use cycle sites, link laundering sites, and database sites to build link volume. However I thought than because now we have automated tools, Scrapebox/Xrummer/BMD would be a faster way to build basement links. Also since trackbacks are overdone, making cycle sites hard, database sites are harder to index now, and I thought it may be faster to just spam directly than to link launder for the same crappy links. This is just assumptions from second hand information.


    4. Timing


    - I am not sure about timing besides keeping link volume consistent, I'm already 50% of my way through the stage, and ranking on first page for two high competition terms.


    - Do you have to keep link volume consistent for each type of link? or just link volume in general. Has anyone ever tested, keeping link volume consistent for each type of link vs just keeping general link volume consistent?

    5. Social Media

    I've been spamming Facebook for a while now as a club promoter so i'll shoot in some of my own never before shared ideas.

    5. a. How get a real Facebook following fast (the nightclub promoter way)

    i. Create an event page on Facebook advertising your website and include a link to your website in the event description. Write the event description so people would actually click on your link. It helps to take a personal tone: i.e Hey guys I am (a local in X town/a student at X university) I just started this site about *topic*, I've put a lot of work into it and think it's really cool, would be great if you could take a look and give me some feedback and like us on Facebook *link to your Facebook fans page*.

    ii. After you've created the event page, download Firebug and "facebook invite them all script for greesemonkey" which lets you invite all a user's friends to an event with a click of a button, Facebook doesn't let you do this usually to prevent spam.

    iii. Invite all your friends to the event. Then take a portable laptop with you, show 10 of your friends your website, and be like yea check out my new site, would be great if you wouldn't mind doing a shout out on Facebook to your friends for me. Get them to log into their Facebook account, and invite all their Facebook friends to the event you created, and get your friend to write a short personalised messaged to their friends.

    iv. Assuming you're friends each have 300 Facebook friends, you've just messaged 3300 people with a personalised message from a friend referring them to your website, to like your Facebook page. Because the message is so personalised, the conversion rate to a fan is 5-10% (I've invited more than 500,000 people using this method).

    v. The real beauty of this method is, you as the administrator of the event have the ability to private message all of the people that were invited to the event (all 3300) anytime you want. Users will only stop receiving your messages if they go to the event and click "remove from my events" which is a tiny button on the button of the event, most users don't know how to do it, so they will continually receive your messages. DON'T FUCKING ABUSE THIS - you will only piss off the people invited to your event, one message every 2 weeks and no more.

    vi. So time to scale up this baby. Ok go find a college kid and pay him/her $10-15 an hour to walk around campus with a laptop showing people your website and asking uni students to do shout outs on Facebook for you. In the space of 3 months I've messaged out 500,000 people in my city, and built a following of over 20,000 real Facebook fans, for a fairly modest cost. Best part of it is I can message out all of the 500,000 people any time I want. I used to bring 1000 people a week to a local nightclub which I operated using this method.

    vii. The above is only a rough outline, feel free to ask questions in comments. I am also sure you guys can do better at scaling this tactic than me, so please add to this method.

    5.b Twitter

    i. I haven't really played around with Twitter that much but I am assuming something like Tweet Attacks + Tweet Indexer.
    Any Twitter experts want to add their 2 cents here please?

    Additional questions

    Are there any other things which I should incorporate?
    How would you refine and improve this plan?
    I see no harm in posting up a definitive guide on how to rank for high competition keywords, because it obviously will take a lot of work, and the majority of people won't be bothered to implement it.

    Again shout out to all experts in the respective fields (blog commenting, twitter, blog network building, generalist experts) to please help answer questions and contribute to this post.

    Thanks for reading guys.

     
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  2. delboytrotter

    delboytrotter Registered Member

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    Interesting read mate. As a noob I've asked these questions myself. Subscribed.
     
  3. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    aussie aussie aussie xD do you live in sydney bro?

    I am putting up a aus blog network, looking for partners to share cost and promotion if your interested skype me "robertaoliu"
     
  4. Ambassy

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    Pretty great guide. Thanks for posting :)
     
  5. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    Cheers,

    thoughts on questions anyone?
     
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  6. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    Does anyone know who are the most reputed/knowlegable members on this forum?
     
  7. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    Another question:

    Regarding purchasing expired domains, what is a good price to be paying for PR5 PR6 PR7, given that they have solid white hat backlink profiles (no web 2.0, articles, or other spam at all).

    Also what other factors in the backlink profile should we be looking at
     
  8. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    bumpedy bump
     
  9. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    anyone?! >=|
     
  10. albaniax

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    It's a month later, this plan is good, what are you waiting for?
    Starting is the most important part. By now, you could finished already a lot of work.

    Check BST here and look which service is getting good reviews, then either purchase or do the service for yourself.

    All other questions, will answer themselves.
     
  11. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    I have started.

    I've started 4 months ago.

    Results are looking good up to 1000 UVs a day and 1k rev a week.

    I am testing everything myself, but keen to hear other's opinions to validate my thoughts
     
  12. tutzor

    tutzor Registered Member

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    Awesome work man, I'm only at 1k/month and I've been doing SEO much longer...What kind of backlinks did you build to push your sites to first page for those competitive keywords if you don't mind me asking?
     
  13. tutzor

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    Backlink Energizer works better than any other service I've tested. I have 50 domains set up just for indexing though and its still difficult to xrumer profile links. I usually create 10 random lists with ScrapeBox and then let 10 different domains index them to speed things up, still Google will not index all of my profile links, the best I've done so far is 35% indexing rate in about 3 weeks....

    I'm currently working on optimizing a list of forums for xrumer. I got about 1.5 million urls that I gathered from all sorts of places and also scraped with Scrapebox and I'm running PHP scripts to analyze what kind of forum platform they are, that way hopefully I can create optimized list for xrumer to get more success rate.

    Other than, I'd have to throw sliqsubmitter in there which is the best directory submitter I've found and I tested quite a few of them, you can also add your own custom directories that you get with scrapebox which is neat.

    AMR is weak, but I still use it, I only get about 100 live links per run and those lists usually have a lot of trojans and malware shit, so if you're gonna run it I recommend sandboxie or vmware.

    You're already doing a better job than 99% of people on this forum.
     
  14. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    hey man,

    thanks for your reply, quite informative.

    yea we can definately work together on something. I've been focusing on methods of indexing mostly for the previous month, and also scrapebox - been building aa lists, high PR lists, and building drupal, habaru fast poster lists etc. I haven't had a good play around with Xrummer yet, just brought it last week. So I think what we're doing can compliment each other. I added you on skype.

    i've been targeting mostly long tails with a madlib page generator approach.

    In terms of link building, I did mix of everything
     
  15. charto03

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    The only big thing that I see left out of this one would be the "Art of Scraping" using blogs and rss feeds as per the desert scrapping and blackhole seo articles. If your not familar lemme know and I can give you an overview the best that I can.
     
  16. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    you're refering to auto blogs scrapping content from rss feeds and alexa way back machine?

    mmm i am going to test out the track back pinger thing, but instead i am going to be using scrapebox and blackbox plugin.

    content wise, i got my own content sources that i scrape: twitter, other random unpopular sites
     
  17. fathobbitsss

    fathobbitsss Junior Member

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    yea this was ment to be more focused on link building,

    could write another post nearly as long on content scrapeing and structuring madlib sites, which is the other half of what eli talks about
     
  18. fathobbitsss

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    comon guys keep this thread alive =(
     
  19. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    I like the idea of mini net sites. I think the idea of creating only ten sites is kind of weak tho. Why not have thousands on different C Class? Get to that point and I bet you will be doing work.
     
  20. hadeska

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    Interesting and maybe you can make a post on otority site like a official artist site, you can sign up and make a post, 5 minute guaranted google indexed your link and post.. please dont spammy :)

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