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2000 hits but 0 dl with limewire, does this sound right?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by BigBlue, Aug 30, 2008.

  1. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    Hi there,
    Sorry if I am posting to the wrong thread, but I have been experimenting with some torrent/p2p blackhat method to get some cheap traffic.

    I know torrents are way more effective, but due to the fact that p2p "auto submits" your file, this is my current focus.

    My question is, I have a few celebrity related ebooks, and some have around 2000 hits, but 0 downloads ! Does this seem right ?

    I have checked my router's port forwarding, the firewall icon on the bottom left shows that there's nothing blocking, and further more, I can download files just fine.

    Is it really that hard to get ppl to download these files through limewire, or other p2p software (emule, winmx, kazaa, etc) noadays ?

    Any input will be appreciated,

    thanks all! :)
     
  2. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    Personally, E-Books aren't easy to submit over Limewire or other Software of the sort.

    Just my opinion: I use Frostwire.. for some reason Limewire lags my internet to holy fucking hell. Frostwire is just a lighter version of Limewire but it's the exact same program.

    People use these programs for four basic things.

    #1 - Music
    People come on here mostly for music and type in any rap song in the world and you'll see what I mean. Rap is most likely the most popular out of the music section.

    #2 - Porn/XXX
    Torrents/Google isn't the only source people check for Porn and XXX. This is over used a lot though and exploited a lot on P2P networks and a shit ton of people use it solely for this reason.

    #3 - Movies
    People also look on here for new movies or DVD rips a lot if they can't find it through torrents.

    #4 - Games
    Games are a huge hit on P2P applications and I've used Frostwire to get a few games myself. It was quicker for me then using a BT program.

    There are other uses for P2P applications, but in my experience those are the four most sought after things and I never had any success getting people to download E-Books on there.
     
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  3. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    wow thanks for the quick reply there coreygeer!
    yeah, those are some really good points.

    its likely that people searching up for britn*y spea*s say, would match my .pdf .word files, but would likely download the videos instead. hence the high "hits" rate but low/nothing dl counts.

    I just wanted to make sure if the functionality of the upload itself was working, and that I didn't have a wrong upload setting somewhere on limewire.

    I've just gotten Frostwire installed, I'll give it a test run and see if I get better results here.

    I guess it doesn't hurt to have a p2p app running to serve up the occasional DLs for some traffic.

    thanks!
     
  4. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    If you've got a huge hard drive and a speedy connection, you could always gather hundreds of thousands of pictures, music videos, and spam the shit out of them.

    I think this is a creation of the owners of Frost Wire, but when ever you type in ANY music file, you'll see a result for "Girl has orgasm on webcam"

    For Example: If you're looking for "Metallica - The Unforgiven"
    You'll see something that looks like this

    "Metallica the unforgiven girl has orgasm on webcam" and it will always have the most seeds, no matter what you type in.

    Now either someone has a gigantic hard drive, or the owners are making a hell of a profit.
     
  5. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    Interesting point you have there. Here's an idea I haven't tried, but there's some open source php libraries out there that converts HTML to PDF.

    It is actually quite possible to 'mass produce' files that way (without having to do the manual work); all you'll need to do is to feed in the filename and URL that way and let the script do the work.

    I guess the key is, like other methods, to find keywords that users search for. As you've pointed out, I recon the most common names searched on these types of applications are mp3s.

    Another interesting area may be to upload files with name's of popular books (amaz*n's top sellers).

    These type of files are usually not too big so bandwidth isn't my top concern here! :)
     
  6. rubixcubeman

    rubixcubeman Registered Member

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    My reply, Bit Torrent is the only way to release P2P releases on mass to get decent traffic to your sites. Not only that, but please offer up something useful to the scene. And people will come pay you back by clicking on sponsored ads, and that in turn can make you money. Shitee release = shitee return. Post only within your genre and follow the rules with any server you submit to. The money will come. The downside is, if you use Google to track your stats and to push your ads you'll get banned. Because they can see where you traffic is coming from. So, use a 3rd party company that pays better than Adsense. Hope that helps you on your way!
     
  7. suade

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    yes me too limewire dont work for me so i shifted to frostwire
    but the problem is nobody seem to download from my upload
    folder i got 2500 hits but zero download??? i only upload files that is less 1mb??? but nothin happen..anyway i put the video inside zip folder cuz i have txt file inside to link to my site,. is it good or i just upload the video itself
     
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  8. BigBlue

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    Thanks rubix for your input ... that's a good point you made about quality vs quantity. Does anyone know if these p2p type apps actually have 'moderators' like torrent sites?

    If you were to spam a torrent site, you'd get banned in a heatbeat I recon, but I am assuming p2p apps are slightly more forgiving?

    suade, I think one of the reasons why your files don't get downloaded is "because" they're too small perhaps? Its possible that people looking for mp3/ebook/vid will find a 1mb file too small.

    I'll try to put more time into this method when I have some free time and give you guys status updates ..... as of now, my results are somewhat similar to yours there.
     
  9. theadultsplayground

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    Try sharing some NDS ROMs. That seems to work.
     
  10. TheBiaatch

    TheBiaatch Newbie

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    Just keep up with the latest appz and other 0day stuff...you can even give fake names and stuff, traffic is all the matters and the way to get traffic doesn't matter :p
     
  11. Top25

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    Yes, use some fake file name generator :D
     
  12. suade

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    its 1mb because i converted it to 3gp format if its wmv it will be 4-6 mb in size
    i think convert it again to wmv but im looking for rebrander for mp3 or video format anybody has it..:23:
     
  13. jack-tt

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    I have been having this problem also it has something to do with routers and firewalls.

    You will find more info on this forum.

    Code:
    http://www.gnutellaforums.com/download-upload-problems/17321-maximizing-upload-download-success-limewire.html
    Hope it helps
     
  14. BigBlue

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    Hey great input guys,
    suade, yeah, I have noticed that making the files larger do help because when people search up for files using p2p apps, they tend to ignore files that are exceptionally small or large; you wouldn't want to download a mp3 from your favorite band thats 500mb or 20kb would ya? :) Try converting your vids back to wmv and do let us know how well that works out for you

    as for the uplaod issues, I have been reading up the limew*re forum as well .... I AM seeing uploads (the upload attempts and actual uploads are the same, so they do upload), but its just that the hits/upload ratio is like 2000 in 1 or something. Working on improving this ratio now.