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20 bucks, three years of falling and puddle of inthusiasm

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by grimgrin, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. grimgrin

    grimgrin Newbie

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    Hello guys.
    I wish i can say i am complete newbie in IM but it is not completely true. Ive tried to reach some money in the internet science approximatly 2012 and get fail after fail. I tried course of Xfactor for example and Xfacotr 2. Result was 20 bucks that i cant even withdraw. I tried to build affiliate shop for amazon. I tried to do arbitraje and lost my money. I tried blackhat like cloacking and doorways and meet the fail again and kindly lost my sofware invesments. So i think you can say i am 100% IM looser.
    But for now i earn another 20 bucks with freelancing on upwork (done some programming - have a little skills in it) and stay of bootom of IM succes stairway again.
    On the forums ive read lke guys do their first $100 with no money at all trough adsense or affiliate or whatever.
    So before go and try again i decided ask for your wisdom. What path would you choose if you were in the beginning with 20 dollars now?
    Thankyou. Hope for your understanding.
    Jack
     
  2. Sherbert Hoover

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    You don't need $20 to make money online. That's the problem with people nowadays. They try for years but half-ass it the whole way. Put your eggs in one basket and MOVE. What are you passionate about? Start a website about it. Spend the money on a domain and hosting. Learn Wordpress. Grab one of these nulled Themeforest themes in the Downloads section.

    Then work on your English skills, and sit down and WRITE. Write a lot. If there is one skill that I wish to convey on anyone getting started in the Internet Marketing field, it's how you convey yourself through the written word. I dare say that may be your biggest downfall, bro.

    Get on it. If you've got any SPECIFIC questions, throw them up here and I'll do my best to answer. But none of this "How does i make money?" bull.
     
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  3. TayaX

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    I would save $40 more and go see a psychologist cause you are so fucking depressing.

    Your mindset is what should change, not your methods.
     
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  4. healzer

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    Save your 20$ to buy some food for energy.
    Start by changing your mindset like the others said.

    I believe you're not exactly sure what you're doing, you seem to be jumping all around.
    If you need money quick, start doing more freelance work. It's a great business to grow in, coz' you're helping other people solve their problems.
    Once you're not much worried about money (thanks to some freelance projects) you can start playing around with other methods, or build your own services/products.

    Hope this helps.
     
  5. TayaX

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    I wish I had something to do on freelancer, because basically you're having a nice open window onto someone business that is probably profitable. It should inspire you. It's like learning from better than you, while getting paid. I don't know what else you need.
     
  6. grimgrin

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    Hey and thanks all of you for real response guys! In truth I didn't want to seem like a whiner. Sorry for that slappy mood. I just wanna hear kindly what best way to invest and what migt work now. Thankyou for encouraging tough answer.
    Will work hard and keep go to my goals.
     
  7. KingMatt

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    You're in the right place to learn here and solid advice from healzer and TayaX

    It's a marathon not a sprint. I'm not where I want to be yet but I'll get there, whatever it takes. It takes time and it starts with hard work and learning
     
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  8. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    X-Factor as in JohnXFactor the ebook sales guy?

    He did real well selling ebooks and he had some interesting thoughts but they were all based on short lived theories and not designed to adjust as things adjusted from what I remember.

    You are not the only one to think his path was the one to Glory and Riches online I am sure as he sold those things left and right for a while.

    Take a look through this site and read about how some others are making decent cash; some are short term methods and those that share them usually will say that it won't last forever; others share methods that are built on a long term business model.

    Both have certain value and most of those methods can be started pretty inexpensively.

    You're in the right place now, you just got started in the wrong one.
     
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  9. Y Combinator

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    OP every single method you read on Black Hat World is really just a starting point for thinking. The methods here alone are usually not enough to make money because by the time they end up on a public forum there's so much competition that all the low hanging fruit have already been picked.

    If you really, really, want to make money the only solution left is to innovate. Take one of those old tired methods that have been going around for years and elevate it to the level of art.

    It is implied but not stated that you must think creatively and try out your own experiments [when you read a method] so if you don't operate in entrepreneur mode 24/7 then you've already failed.

    I really suck at writing but something you should observe about the most successful people here is they operate as entrepreneurs. They're able to connect the dots and say "well: that's quite a decent idea but what if I went in this direction. What if instead of [...] I decided to make a network of [...]. That way the profit would be higher ..." and I think most noobs here instead expect to be spoon fed everything.

    Let me show you some good books that will teach you the basics of entrepreneurship and high tech business.
    - Start Small, Stay Small: A Developer's Guide to Launching a Startup
    - Learn by doing: notes on entrepreneurial thought leaders
    - How to start a startup by Paul Graham
    - Watch the Y Combinator lecture series

    Then after you read these books come back to this forum with a new perspective and ask how many ways are people doing business here that suck? (There's a lot.) And obviously most importantly: how could you build a product that solved this problem and charge money for it.
     
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  10. grimgrin

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    This courses was about mfa microniche sites. First one and second more about bigger authority sites.
    Thankyou for inspiring answer )
     
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  11. grimgrin

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    Y Combinator, man, great words, really appreciate it. Will try to find this books. Thankyou!
     
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  12. Paper-Boy

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    @OP, you can start by reading all the threads created by BassTrackerBoats.

    I've learned a lot from him and his approach to his methods is very business-oriented. That's something a lot of methods don't have.

    Treat IM like a business.

    Also, reading a few books like "think or grow rich" or "millionaire fastlane" can help motivate you to change your current mindset.

    "Think and Grow Rich" has done that to me and I'm trying to apply all the principles I've learned from that book. It's going to take awhile but I'm already starting to see the impact it's having in my life.

    Good luck.
     
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    In addition to this is The Four-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss. One of the best business/productivity/lifestyle design books written.