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1600 Visitors a day, with 40 cents a day. Is it worth it to optimize it?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by davidmedina88, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. davidmedina88

    davidmedina88 Newbie

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    Hey guys, I am noob and I have been reading this forum trying to learn as much as I can. Do you think my website is worth spending the time and money to optimize it using balckhat techniques such as building backlinks either with other posts or with comments?

    -I have a 5 months old website that is kind of like 9gag but it is in spanish since I am from Mexico.
    -I also have a Facebook page of my website with 6000 fans all real.
    -I have an average of 1,600 unique visitors a day but I am only making like 40 cents a day with AdSense
    -25 categories (300 words on each page)
    -25,000 posts (20 words max). User creates the content, not me.
    -Due to the nature of my website, my posts are not long at all. They only have a title and a picture.
    -I have no more than 15 natural backlinks.
    -Started as school project and I enjoy doing it


    My question is:
    Do you think this is something to pursue for long time? I mean, 1500 visitors and only making 40 cents? I am starting to change my mind towards a another subject with longer posts.


    If you have any advise, I would appreciate it. You guys changed my life already! Thanks!




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    Details in my 5 month with the website


    Where are your visitors from primarily?
    Mexico: 54,000 visits
    Argentina: 20,000 visits
    Colombia: 15,000
    ...
    United States: 4,100


    Are your users totally spanish speaking?
    Yeah, they are totally spanish speakers.


    Can they read the ads?
    Spanish ads yes, they can. I get spanish adds all the time since all my content is in spanish


    What is your bounce rate and average time on page?
    65% bounce rate
    Avg. Visit Duration: 2 : 15 min


    You said it trends with soccer events and such... are a lot of the visitors on mobile phones?
    Very little mobile phone...Only 5,00 views in mobile phone. Most of my audience are teenegers with no money for smartphones.


    How much are you paid per ad click average?
    Around .08


    How many clicks have you had?
    458


    Are the ads text or image?
    Images, since my site has mostly images. My zero experience thought it would be better


    What location are they in in your site?
    Header, footer and big one in the left-middle of the screen (gives me the most money).
     
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  2. therage

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    Don't pursue for money, but if you have a passion for it. If you want a site to get rich from, then leave it. If you want a site that you will enjoy, then yes keep it and scale it up.
     
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  3. Migladon

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    Where are your visitors from primarily? Us traffic pays the most(most of the time). You said the site is in spanish; are your users totally spanish speaking? Can they read the ads? What is your bounce rate and average time on page? You said it trends with soccer events and such... are a lot of the visitors on mobile phones? How much are you paid per ad click average? How many clicks have you had? Are the ads text or image? What location are they in in your site?

    I would recommend cpa as even with an incentive email or zipcode submit you can easily clear 0.40 with just one offer submit. I used to use maxbounty which recommend but there are many to choose from.

    Pm me your domain if you'd like me to take a look.
     
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  4. davidmedina88

    davidmedina88 Newbie

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    Thank you so much for your help. I updated my post with your questions. Pretty much I have had 500 clicks with .08 for every click. Mexico is the main user and they are there for like 2 minutes. No significant mobile users. I use image ads.

    I am new to the forum so I can't PM. Thank you so much!
     
  5. davidmedina88

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    Thank you so much for your help. I updated my post with your questions. Pretty much I have had 500 clicks with .08 for every click. Mexico is the main user and they are there for like 2 minutes. No significant mobile users. I use image ads.


    I am new to the forum so I can't PM. Thank you so much!
     
  6. therage

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    Keep the site, and then work on a money maker site ring on the side. If you can't manage, then outsource as much as possible and keep working on your main site. You have 24 hours of the day to work, minus school and work and you can still manage to make money and expand your sites.
     
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    Looking at your bounce rate I can say that your server might be facing downtime. or your pageload is very very slow. check it out. You are missing lot of visitors to your website. Your bounce rate is too too high. Thats bad .. I feel tahts teh reason your websiet not gettign monetixed.
     
  8. davidmedina88

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    Thank you for your input. I was no thinking about that. Due to the nature of my site, I need many images to load on each page. Currently, on the single page I load one medium image (36KB) and around 15 thumbnails (12KB) each. My index page has like 50 thumbnails. My average load time is 9.81s. I think think this is really high isn't it?

    I currently live in the US and have and the site doesn't seem to be that slow. However, maybe I should take into account that my audience may not have the same speed that I have since the connection and computer that they have is most likely slower.

    Thanks for your input, I'll see if I can reduce the images size a little, specially the thumbnails.
     
  9. moonlighsunligh

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    You should have at least $10 a day with that many unique visitors per day. Try out infolinks, thought i am not sure if they allow Spanish sites.

    What is your CTR?
    0.5%?
     
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    10 dollars a day would be a great start for me a as a newbie. Sadly, my all time (5 months ) CTR is only 0.13%. thanks for the suggestion, I'll research on infolinks to see what I can find.
     
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    Instead of image ads - try to use text ads - 336*280. But do not place it too close to images. It is also important to place the ads above the fold - but again not next to an image, as this could lead to ban.

    If you do not have too many repeated visitors, you should be able to increase your CTR a lot by doing this.
     
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  12. Adam718

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    I really doubt a social site like that with 1.5k unique visits a day only has 15 backlinks lol
     
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    Picture sites get traffic easily, for example google images traffic, as there isn't too much competition.
     
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  14. 247hustle

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    1. get a cpa account
    2. get to know your audience, like how old they are, you can get that info if you use quantcast in your source code.
    3. use geo redirect to convert each traffic better and use offers that matches your audience age and sex.
    4. ???
    5. Profit
    6. thank me later ;)
     
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