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15th Sept: BATTLE OF BRITAIN DAY

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  1. britcpa

    britcpa Power Member

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    On September 15th 1940, over a thousand german aircraft blackened britains blue skies and already taut nerves from a summer of aerial bombardments were stretched and pinged like piano wires as spitfire squadrons raced to meet them head on during the luftwaffe's biggest ever raid.

    two nations CLASHED.

    throughout that day and deep into a long dark night, the RAF fighters scrambled over and over until the luftwaffe finally returned across the english channel.

    170+ kills of german aircraft were claimed on that single day -which was an exagerrated number, with something like a third of that being the true figure- but nonetheless, this was truly mortal 'life or death' combat on an epic and heroic scale fought by youths who were barely men.

    "never have so many owed so much to so few" churchill famously said of that summers battles.

    four years later, with the RAF taking the fight to germanys own skies, the wounded pilot of a lancaster bomber strapped on a parachute and grabbed a fire extinguisher as he prepared to climb out onto the wing of his aircraft in a desperate attempt to put out the fire that was beginning to engulf his fuel tank.

    with the lancaster flying at a height of 20,000 feet and at a speed of 200mph, the pilot poked his face into the headwind, crawled out onto the wing and set himself to the task of keeping the bomber aloft. with one hand he clung to the wing, with the other he directed his fire extinguisher.

    he managed to put out the fire, but at a cost - the intensity of the flames seared his face and hands. his clothing and backpack were scorched, but the fire was out...

    ...the german fighter came back on another attack and a burst from the messerschmitts machine guns swept the RAF pilot from the wing.

    with his skin beginning to swell and peel, carrying two bullets in his leg, shell splinters from the earlier attack and now tumbling 3+ miles through the skies beneath a smouldering and holed parachute, it crossed his mind that these might be his last moments.

    fate decreed otherwise and he surivived.

    landing very heavily, he sustained more injuries including a broken ankle and for the next 10 months he was hospitalised - TEN MONTHS - which gives you an idea of how badly damaged his body was during those few minutes of mid-air madness.

    transferred to stalag kc prisoner of war camp, he then went on to make 2 escape attempts, the 2nd being successful. this is one game man.

    he met up with US 3rd army troops making their way into germany and was finally transferred home to england, receiving the VICTORIA CROSS in recognition of his courage and bravery displayed on that lancaster bombers wing 24th april 1944.

    Norman Cyril Jackson (serial ME669) VC, is the man we're talking about here and quite frankly, i am in awe of him.

    meanwhile, 71 years on, we have scrotey little yoof cunts looting and ransacking britains high streets on the basis that theyre looking after themselves and not realising that if it wasnt for men like norman jackson they would be speaking german and seig heiling anything in a black uniform.

    respect to the warrior boys of the RAF for not flinching in the face of overwhelming odds.....

    coyi
     
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    Very interesting story, until you slipped into brainwashed nationalism mode at the end there :)

    Fuck the Government.
     
  3. adhept

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    We'd all be speaking german?

    Are you serious? With our capacity for learning other languages? In 70 years or so we might have got the hang of 'Hello' and '2 pints please barman'

    I mean for crying out loud, have you seen the teenagers of today - half of them have managed to make it almost to adulthood without managing to learn english properly.
     
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    Had the battle gone the other way, Europe would have been locked tight up by the Nazis for quite a long time, maybe even for all time. Without Britain, there could have been no D-day, at least not from the west. Everything would have to have come from the south (north Africa). By then Germany would have had time to explode an atomic bomb, and many of us might never have been born.

    I haven't always agreed with British policy over the centuries but thank God for British courage, fair play, and sense of decency.
     
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    Thankyou for posting this. I have recently left the RAF as an aircraft engineer. Having spent 12 years as an Airman. I.e non officer.. Repairing/servicing and handling aircraft. I spent the last 3 years of service ensuring we could take out and more importantly bring home our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly everyday I would see brave young men being medevac'd home missing limbs and more. Not to mention those that didn't make it.

    I left partially because it just got me down seeing these guys leaving the Aircraft on an inflight meals loading waggon. Because they cannot walk down the aircraft steps. They sacrificed everything.

    I only post this in recognition of the sacrifices of yesteryear and just as importantly the youth of today who are still bleeding on foreign soil to support/defend our current foreign policies. I have recently suffered ill health and no matter how bad I get. I take strength from knowing that if these guys can get up and carry on.. Then damn it so can I.

    I would just like to show my own support for all our forces who operate on our behalf. Rightly or wrongly all these guys are heroes and we should support them. Sorry for getting all forrest gump but the OP struck a chord for me.

    best wishes morris
     
  6. britcpa

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    you need to have a serious word with yourself mate. brainwashed nationalism? you couldnt be further from the truth. i didnt slip into the old 'makes you proud to be british did i?' no, didnt think so.

    i was acknowledging magnificent actions by selfless historic people and for good measure, while i was at it, took the opportunity of highlighting selfish actions by obnoxious contemporary people.

    dont know where youre coming from in terms of your comments, but im happy to have the debate, 'tho having said that, this thread isnt the right place.
     
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    We'd all be speaking german?
    
    Are you serious? With our capacity for learning other languages? In 70 years or so we might have got the hang of 'Hello' and '2 pints please barman'
    
    I mean for crying out loud, have you seen the teenagers of today - half of them have managed to make it almost to adulthood without managing to learn english properly. 
    
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    Re: 15th Sept: BATTLE OF BRITAIN DAY
    Had the battle gone the other way, Europe would have been locked tight up by the Nazis for quite a long time, maybe even for all time. Without Britain, there could have been no D-day, at least not from the west. Everything would have to have come from the south (north Africa). By then Germany would have had time to explode an atomic bomb, and many of us might never have been born.
    
    I haven't always agreed with British policy over the centuries but thank God for British courage, fair play, and sense of decency. 
    
    its worth pointing out that it wasnt just the british alone who showed courage, fair play and decency - as well as the empire countries of canada, australia, new zealand, south africa, india & the caribbean nations, there were poles, czechs, french and many many more who responded to the call to fight a single enemy: tyranny

    makes me puke when i hear the whispered rumours of an avariciuos coming 'new world order' compared to what these men contrived to do for no personal gain...
     
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    went to cyprus three years ago on a short trip -me and two mates- and as we were coming through passport control, a guy in a wheelchair trundled in behind us. big big welsh man he was.

    t-shirt, shorts and metal legs.

    after a few minutes, i thought 'if hes brave enough to show his legs like that, then im brave enough to speak to him' and lets get it right, everybody saw his legs and nobody wanted to look at him, let alone talk to him.

    bit of banter specifically about him not being able to get a suntan on them and he told the tale of how he'd been in afghanistan with a commando regiment and was taken out by a missile/landmine/rpg. cant remember which because to be honest, i wanted to give him the respect of acknoweldging him, but initially i felt awkward as fuck so ive forgotten that part.

    anyway, he'd been in re-hab for over 8 months and his personal mission was to get himself fit enough that he could pass the stringent medical that would allow him to rejoin his regiment based on him being able to march over distance and run carrying equipment.

    that was mind boggling to somebody like me who sits safely behind a pc fretting about business deals amongst other meaningless things. i mean mind boggling.

    believe you me, the whole of that silent passport queue discreetly listened in as he told his tale. he told us of his anguish and about his sense of loss -not so much for himself and his own wounds- but as you say, for those soldiers that wouldnt be coming back.

    people smiled at him and gave him eye contact after that and maybe that was as much as could be expected on that day in that airport and with all those people who were strangers to him, but were humbled in their own lives by his attitude in his life.

    be lucky...
     
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    I think it's great that you really made the leap to talk to the guy. Fair play mate. This whole rehab for our guys is so important. I heard a year or so back that at Headley court the military rehab centre they were getting complaints from the local community, when the injured guys were using the local swimming pool as part of their rehab. Locals didn't like seeing all the cripples. Not to mention that they were trying to build accommodation for visiting families at the centre.

    Some of the locals were upset that it may lower the tone of the area.

    Go figure eh. Not to mention removing the soldiers camouflage gear (the stuff they were injured in) So as not to offend others at the birmingham hospital.

    It's great living in a democracy. I just find it hard to stomach that some sections of community take it out on the guys on the ground and not the politicians who are the real masters of our foreign policies.
     
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    Agreed.