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$15-20 per Spun Article - 4 Spun Sentences - 90%+ Unique - 500 Words - Good Deal?

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  1. Ghoast

    Ghoast Power Member

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    I might start a BST here (pending approval) selling Spun Articles..

    Recently my team has come up with a pretty cool solution where we can create unique spun articles.

    I just wanted to ask the forum if they think our pricing is fair - MODS: APOLOGIES IF THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS AREN'T ALLOWED - PLEASE DELETE IF THIS IS THE CASE

    Here are the features of the spun articles we would be selling:

    4 Sentence Spun - each sentence has 4 different variations to choose from. - EXAMPLE: {SENTENCE 1a| SENTENCE 1b| SENTENCE 1c| SENTENCE 1d}

    Word Level Spinning - goes without saying but we obviously spin at word level too.

    Spun Articles produce articles of at least 500 words in length

    We start off with 100% unique content written by our writers.

    We spin to at LEAST 90% + Uniqueness

    YOU choose the topic and up to 10 keywords - (Keywords will be spun to ensure uniqueness however they will appear regularly when spun)

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    We've done a quick search and so far found these going for around $30-$50 and sometimes more..

    We want to charge $20 for 1 and then lower the price to $12 per article when you buy 100+ - Discounts on ALL bulk orders starting at 3+

    Do you think this is a fair price? Thanks for feedback :)
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    QUESTION FROM mike007:

    "Is it done manually or by a software?

    How about the readability of the spun articles? Are they free from grammatical mistakes and human readable?"

    Answer:

    Spun Articles are never meant to be used anywhere that a human would read them (IMO). I would only use spun articles on 2nd tiers or below and they are for the sole purpose of G bots (and other bots) to find contextual links.

    The articles we produce are a good enough standard to pass Gs duplicate content filters while also being readable enough to not raise any red flags. I would not put these articles anywhere that a human might read them. They do have grammatical mistakes but they are fairly readable and definitely more than good enough for the purpose they serve..

    Here's an example:

    Browse a story around pores and skin disorder. When i appeared to be younger I knew I'd a challenge. I was lined in skin moles as well as zits. It was incredibly terrifying for me personally then I slept in the corridor each and every morning. My skin issues truly made my own daily life hard. I searched for hrs on-line to get a solution. All of my companions instructed myself to acquire lost. I had been selected that I might be fixed. Eating unhealthy foodstuff is poor for skin. A good friend of acquire informed me a magic formula. I assumed I'd discover released the reason for skin issues. I thought that you ought to find out regarding the treatment. I moved to the grocery store and found a purse of crops. I discovered that I could relax with my drugs. Eliminating skin tags was incredible. I had been very fashionable using the females right now. I'm likely to mention with you the amusing issue concerning this. When I had a good peach I found that my pimples have been much less undesirable. In some cases once i obtained worried my own pimples went away. Be sure you travel outside after you can. I consider and also do all my pursuits outdoors in the sunlight. The more soaked the skin may be the better. Greasy pores and skin is usually a challenge. I might show you how to clean your encounter. I prefer to clean my encounter each of the moment. Keep clear and additionally you will see the benefits. I have come to be pretty popular in my town for acne breakouts. I really like planning to cities coupled with assisting consumers using their skin. The ideal idea to try and do is come up with a program to receive your skin greater. At times men and women don't be aware of they've got terrible skin. Food is sweet but make sure that you don't take in the next an excessive amount of. Pizzas could very well be crafted in a strong manner however occasionally it's not at all. Do not buy confront cream which has loads of chemical substances. Usually read through the label and also do not put unpleasant details on to your skin. I constantly reveal to my friends to not decide to buy specific acne medicine. It's not fantastic when you see a little toddler with pimples. I really believe that pure medicine is the most wholesome. I am aware this can be incredibly practical and you preferred it. Do not allow individuals to accomplish undesirable important things. I actually want you to search up the most beneficial important things that will help using your pores and skin so that you do not have got to depend on the hospitals[/QUOTE]
     
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  2. Sampler

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    Are you expecting customers to supply you with an article to spin, or do you write a new one and spin that?
     
  3. catardat

    catardat Senior Member

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    The price is cool!
     
  4. Ghoast

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    We start off with 100% unique content written by our writers based on your keywords/topic
     
  5. mike007

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    Is it done manually or by a software?

    How about the readability of the spun articles? Are they free from grammatical mistakes and human readable?
     
  6. Ghoast

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    Spun Articles are never meant to be used anywhere that a human would read them (IMO). I would only use spun articles on 2nd tiers or below and they are for the sole purpose of G bots (and other bots) to find contextual links.

    The articles we produce are a good enough standard to pass Gs duplicate content filters while also being readable enough to not raise any red flags. I would not put these articles anywhere that a human might read them. They do have grammatical mistakes but they are fairly readable and definitely more than good enough for the purpose they serve..

    Here's an example:

    Browse a story around pores and skin disorder. When i appeared to be younger I knew I'd a challenge. I was lined in skin moles as well as zits. It was incredibly terrifying for me personally then I slept in the corridor each and every morning. My skin issues truly made my own daily life hard. I searched for hrs on-line to get a solution. All of my companions instructed myself to acquire lost. I had been selected that I might be fixed. Eating unhealthy foodstuff is poor for skin. A good friend of acquire informed me a magic formula. I assumed I'd discover released the reason for skin issues. I thought that you ought to find out regarding the treatment. I moved to the grocery store and found a purse of crops. I discovered that I could relax with my drugs. Eliminating skin tags was incredible. I had been very fashionable using the females right now. I'm likely to mention with you the amusing issue concerning this. When I had a good peach I found that my pimples have been much less undesirable. In some cases once i obtained worried my own pimples went away. Be sure you travel outside after you can. I consider and also do all my pursuits outdoors in the sunlight. The more soaked the skin may be the better. Greasy pores and skin is usually a challenge. I might show you how to clean your encounter. I prefer to clean my encounter each of the moment. Keep clear and additionally you will see the benefits. I have come to be pretty popular in my town for acne breakouts. I really like planning to cities coupled with assisting consumers using their skin. The ideal idea to try and do is come up with a program to receive your skin greater. At times men and women don't be aware of they've got terrible skin. Food is sweet but make sure that you don't take in the next an excessive amount of. Pizzas could very well be crafted in a strong manner however occasionally it's not at all. Do not buy confront cream which has loads of chemical substances. Usually read through the label and also do not put unpleasant details on to your skin. I constantly reveal to my friends to not decide to buy specific acne medicine. It's not fantastic when you see a little toddler with pimples. I really believe that pure medicine is the most wholesome. I am aware this can be incredibly practical and you preferred it. Do not allow individuals to accomplish undesirable important things. I actually want you to search up the most beneficial important things that will help using your pores and skin so that you do not have got to depend on the hospitals
     
  7. mike007

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  8. Ghoast

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    Hey thanks for showing me that - it looks like a good service for the price..

    However it's VERY different to what we're offering:
    - that's only word/phrase spinning. We do sentence spinning 4x..
    - I checked uniqueness of the trial article they provide - TheBestSpinner is telling me it's 33% unique.. Our spun articles are %90 + unique - the article I supplied above is from a spintax which is 95% unique..
    - You have to supply them with an article - we create the articles for spinning ourselves based on keywords/topic you supply..

    So I think we are not really competing, we offer very different services. I think they have a good thing going for the very low price they offer..
     
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  9. seo-dude

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    $20 per articles is way too much even though they are unique. In fiverr, I've seen people selling 3 or more articles for $5 for unique content, though the quality if the article is not very good.
     
  10. moonlighsunligh

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    Why would anyone buy a super spun article which has grammatical errors.

    It is much easier to scrape articles, combine sentences and then autospin it. Such article will be a garbage but at least it will be free.

    But if you decide to write grammar error free articles, then i would pay around $30 for such format - original article + 3 sentence replacements.
     
  11. Ghoast

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    Again, are you talking about SPUN articles or just UNIQUE articles? We get UNIQUE NON-SPUN articles for much cheaper than that..

    If you are talking about SPUN articles then how spun are they? Unique %, number of words, sentence spinning? etc etc

    Quick search I found http://articlesontap DOT com/buy-spun-articles - $40 on that site for same service

    http://www.buy-spun-articles DOT co.uk/ - £20 on that site for 3x sentence spun articles

    So we think so far we have a fair price but wanted to get some feedback here first!
     
  12. Itachi93

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    This is a service like ultra-articles.com

    Though their articles are quite expensive.
     
  13. Ghoast

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    Our articles do have grammatical errors, but they aren't 'garbage' spun articles, they have enough redeeming sentences to make them passable.

    We use these exact type of spun articles to rank our own sites and they do very well, obviously we only put them in 2nd tier and below (as I would recommend everyone do) but they give us good results whenever we use them.. I've seen auto-spun articles and they are just ridiculous looking.. not ONE sentence will make grammatical sense.. I would argue our articles look like they are written by someone with a poor grasp of the english language rather than a crazy piece of software running on autopilot..
    Here are just a few perfectly legit sentences from the article I posted above, each time we spin there are a good ratio of perfect sentences:

    Browse a story around pores and skin disorder
    When i appeared to be younger I knew I'd a challenge
    I was lined in skin moles as well as zits
    My skin issues truly made my own daily life hard
    I searched for hrs on-line to get a solution
    Eating unhealthy foodstuff is poor for skin
    I moved to the grocery store and found a purse of crops
    I discovered that I could relax with my drugs
    Eliminating skin tags was incredible
    I consider and also do all my pursuits outdoors in the sunlight
    The more soaked the skin may be the better
    Greasy pores and skin is usually a challenge
    I have come to be pretty popular in my town for acne breakouts
    It's not fantastic when you see a little toddler with pimples
    I really believe that pure medicine is the most wholesome
    I am aware this can be incredibly practical and you preferred it
    Do not allow individuals to accomplish undesirable important things

    I think this is pretty good considering this article comes from a spintax which is 95% unique..

    The other sentences, while they are not grammatically correct are still fairly readable and the point or idea of the sentence can easily be determined..

    What I regard as, 'junk' spun articles are things like this:

    Original sentence: Okay now look, I really want to tell you about a spun article which is very bad

    Spun:

    I Alright now seem for, I in reality wish to discover enable you to know a number of spun placing up which transpires to interestingly commonly be foresight unquestionably unwelcome
     
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  15. Ghoast

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    Thank you to everyone who shared information here! I think I have enough to go on now to conclude that our price is fair.. For the level of uniqueness and the price I think it's great for the purpose. Hopefully I can bring this service to you guys soon (pending moderation)!
     
  16. moonlighsunligh

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    I prefer articles to be as easy to read as possible and grammatically correct, even if that means I had to sacrifice the level of uniqueness.

    The basic idea of spinning, is to create such copies of the original article, which looks like they have been written by another human. This is why it is very important choose only the best and the most suitable synonyms.

    Google is surely able to determine context of an article, but in addition they might even have a grammar bot.
     
  17. SEO_Alchemy

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    I think for Web 2.0's, wikis, etc. this would be a great service. The price might be a little high though. Like some have pointed out, there's software ie WAC and Kontent Machine that basically do the same thing, though obviously the flow is completely all over the place. But the idea is the same, sentence level spinning from 100's of scraped articles followed by word level spinning. Now I know that yours would be manually sentence spun, but if there are still plenty of grammatical errors, one could argue why not just go for the software where you can produce an unlimited amount of such content. I think if you lower the price to $10 you would get a whole lot more buyers though. Me included :)
     
  18. dennis727

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    ^^

    Agreed with what moonlighsunligh said.

    I even don't mind paying more if the output articles were readable and grammatically correct.
     
  19. deviatus

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    You can get away with $15-20 per unique+spun article on a website with G traffic, maybe even $30, but on the IM forums people are a little more savvy, that's why prices always tend to be lower on the forums (but the volume can be great). You can outsource someone to write unique 500 word articles and do great spins for much less than $20.

    Unless you can get native English writers/spinners, you won't do well with that price point.
     
  20. psytrance

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    do it by paragraph too, then you are in business :)

    i will be your first client :)

    besides write 100% unique content, rewrite it and make it less readable then lower the price. This type of content (at least for me) wont be meant to be readable so as many different variations better. And dont even touch in words (or leave an option for that) that allows the client to choose how heavy word spin should be.