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100 Year Starship: Nasa’s plan to colonise galaxy

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  1. milton

    milton Regular Member

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    Nasa man expects first prototype of a spaceship that will take us between worlds ?within a few years?
    By Tim Edwards
    LAST UPDATED 7:12 AM, OCTOBER 27, 2010 Share
    The US space agency Nasa has announced an intriguing new project called the 'Hundred Year Starship' which aims to send humans on a one-way trip to newly discovered planets across the galaxy.
    "The human space programme is now really aimed at settling other worlds," said Pete Worden, director of Nasa'a Ames research laboratory, at a seminar in San Francisco. "Twenty years ago you had to whisper that in dark bars [or] get fired."
    The Ames laboratory is responsible for Pioneer 10, the space probe that is currently hurtling through deep space equipped with a golden plaque describing what humans look like and the location of earth.
    But while Pioneer 10 is telling the aliens - some say foolishly - where we are, the Hundred Year Starship mission is saying: 'We're coming to get you.' And the aliens have reason to be frightened: while a mere $100,000 in funding is coming from Nasa, $1 million is being provided by the US government's shadowy defence R&D agency Darpa (home to the legendary 'space bomber').
    However, $1.1m isn't nearly enough to fund such an ambitious project as colonising new worlds and the Ames lab is hoping to attract private funding. Worden says: "We hope to inveigle some billionaires to form a Hundred Year Starship fund."
    One of those billionaires could be Google co-founder Larry Page, who has already been interrogating Worden about the price of a mission to Mars - the planet that would very likely be the testing ground for more ambitious colonisation missions beyond the solar system.
    Google is well known for funding what some might see as eccentric projects, the most recent example being its driverless car. Worden suggests he is very interested in space exploration: "Larry Page asked me a couple weeks ago how much it would cost to send people one way to Mars and I told him $10 billion, and his response was, 'Can you get it down to one or two billion?'" Worden sees the fact that he is arguing over price - and not feasibility - as progress of sorts.
    There is no information as yet about the tricky details of generational space travel. After all, this is no five-year mission 'to boldly go where no man has gone before'. This is a one-way trip to almost certain death among the stars.
    Certain questions will have to be answered: questions such as, who on earth would want to go, how do you stop the travellers staging a mutiny and turning the ship back round towards earth, or is it a form of child abuse to bring up offspring in such a claustrophobic environment?
    However, Worden's answer to the question of how you live on another world is interesting. Rather than resorting to that mainstay of science fiction, terraforming, whereby an alien world is made suitable for organisms from earth, Worden suggests a solution with some root in science fact: using genetic engineering to adapt earth plants and animals - even humans - to live on Mars.
    As for actually reaching alien worlds, Worden is very upbeat. "Within a few years we will see the first true prototype of a spaceship that will take us between worlds," he says. By 2030 there will be colonies on the moons of Mars, Phobos or Deimos. From there human colonists can explore the Red Planet remotely with robots.
    Just don't tell them about the infamous Curse of Mars. Almost 50 per cent of missions to the Red Planet have failed.


    Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/70669...n-for-humans-to-colonise-galaxy#ixzz13ed3OfBY
     
  2. milton

    milton Regular Member

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    "I would so much like to believe that this NASA effort is anything other than a budget-bid to keep the coffee and doughnuts coming. "
     
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    consciousnesscreates Power Member

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    Complete waste of cash
     
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    schrute Regular Member

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    agreed.
     
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    Wow, this is great news... 1 million childrens are dying from lack of nutrition every month...

    Nasa is a joke.
     
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    Your Insane! I would volunterr ANY day to Risk my Life to Get off this Planet and See what it's like FAR FAR away! I doubt they would care they just want to get to the stars, hell i would.
     
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    I would also volunteer for something like this.

    Where can I sign up :) lol.
     
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    This is an investment in the future. When (not if) we run out of natural resources one day, we're going to be wishing we had somewhere else to go.
     
  9. milton

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    It is just a far out there, crazy idea. In fact, it is directly stolen from Isaac Asimov's novel where colonists are sent to set up a colony and live off the land. They all die from not understanding their surroundings.

    It is just a way to get funding for NASA to do something. NASA honestly can't make anything. 95% of everything is outsourced to other companies that make the satellites, spacecraft, etc. All NASA does is act as a manager.
     
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    The idea of space colonies sounds good, but even if they'd make it to a habitable planet, you would have to start over civilisation from zero.

    Guess it would merely take a few thousand years to reach the technological standards of 1800 again... so you better leave your Ipod behind ;)
     
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    There isn't a habitable planet within 10 light years of the earth so we are just going to send someone on their merry way just for them to take a suicide pill and ditch billions of dollars of equipment somewhere. Brilliant.

    Send unmanned robotic probes out there if you really want to stretch our limits but any new colonization by humans has only 1 hope - in near earth orbit and then mine nearby asteroids for new resources.
     
  12. milton

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    Who is going to mine asteroids? They're difficult to get to. How are you going to mine it? I mean any real mine production is going to cost money. It may cost $1 trillion dollars and you probably won't see revenues or profits for decades, if not in centuries. If you look in the past century, we've had 2 crippling world wars, superpower countries have fallens, starvation, expansion, economic and technological breakthroughs, hunger, oil praise and crises, Glenn Beck...

    I love space and all but we don't have the tech for alot of it. NASA can't develop it so they're paying companies do it. Lets get real here, NASA hasn't done something conclusively brilliant since landing on the moon. They fight over where spending should be done.
     
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    Those wars weren't crippling, they led to many technical improvements because it was real rivalry. The wars from today are just money swallowing black holes.

    The current irony in space exploration is that there are oceans of methane nearby so a tanker ship wouldn't need to bring fuel for the journey back from there but there is no oxidizer like oxygen to burn that fuel with it.
     
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