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100% sandbox if you backlink your money site ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by markomarkogame, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    If i backlink to my money site directly, is that a bigger chance to get deindexed and sandboxed ?


    Than how to do good ranking of the page if u cant direct link her
     
  2. wannabie

    wannabie Elite Member

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    depends on the link
     
  3. bushbabie21

    bushbabie21 Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    buffer sites buddy...I am learning the hard way myself at the moment...i always knew it but it seems this new algo update is really targetting massive backlinks to the money site.
     
  4. xPWN1t

    xPWN1t Regular Member

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    I backlink my money site all the time. I'm ok with Google dancing my result. I don't believe the sandbox exists. I've had my site jump from result 150 to out of the top 1,000 and come back 3 days later.
     
  5. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    that called google dance


    so if if only backlink my money site directly i wont get slapped ?
     
  6. jason2009

    jason2009 Senior Member

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    Nobody can say that perfectly. And nothing is 100% at SEO. I think good backlink always help in SERP not a chance of Sandbox.
     
  7. king master

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    it also depends on Domain age i prefere to be 2+ to make direct backlink to moneysite
     
  8. iHany

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    for sure it is depends on the link
     
  9. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    Its one week old domain, so i guess i should backlink to the posts and under pages of the website
     
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    trevorhoang Power Member

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    i just got a site de-indexed by google for a sb blast. seems like this panda algo change is messing up everything. i had just purchased SB so this kinda sux.
     
  11. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    Wow that sux
     
  12. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    You can resubmit it to google if it has enough good content on it and its not just spun articles. De-index is not permanent.
     
  13. markomarkogame

    markomarkogame Power Member

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    That doesnt work
     
  14. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    I meant to say if you redo the site with unique articles instead of spun ones it can be re indexed.
     
  15. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    It depends on a few factors:

    1)Your site should have unique content only

    2)Your site should have backlinks from multiple places (web 2.0, social bookmarks, forums, comments, etc)

    3)Your site should not be targeting a super competitive word if the keyword is not in your domain (Google will check to see if your site is spammy or not if you are ranking for a very hard keyword)

    4)Domain age is important (site should be at least 30 days old to build thousands of backlinks to it)

    5)Xrumer & scrapebox backlinks do not get counted in this new algo update from what I have seen

    I purchased 50,000+ xrumer links and 25,000+ scrapebox links and NONE were counted by Google. Now if this was 4-6 months ago I'd be in the first page top 5 for my main keyword.

    Social bookmarks are working now and they are HOT!

    I purchased 1k social bookmarks and went from n/a to page 2 for my 3 main keywords.
     
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  16. wes_one

    wes_one Junior Member

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    Ok here are some tips for different tools:

    1)If you use scrapebox then at start only do 100-200 comments/day on high PR blogs(4-9),preferably you can find some AA edu and gov blogs,it will be very good for you SEO.
    2)If use Bookmarking Demon,for start you should only blast on the main sites with high PR and big user base AKA the ones integrated with BMD,later you can use huge lists of 2k+ sites,it wont matter.
    3)If you using Xrumer,only blast your backlinks,aka blast your social bookmarks,blast your articles and buffer sites.You can blast your money site but only use PR 4 or more forums,and make few posts on every of the forums automatically.
    4)If using Article Marketing Robot then you can and should blast directly to your site,I blasted my blogger to over 500(succesful) directories and nothing happened,even thought it didnt have content.
    5)If using The Best Spinner,first spin your article to about 40% unique and very readable and then re-spin with multi level spining until you reach 80+ procent unique.
    6)If using SpinnerChief(same as TBS)
    7)If using SenukeX do all the modules,they do not have much of sites in them.
    8)If using magic/sick submitter make sure you submit to video sites and make sure you have backlink in description
    9)If you have cash you should invest in Linkpushing,that service is revolutionary for the price,it can literally rank you #1 for low competition keyword especially if you have EMD
    10)Use directory submitter,you can find it in the download zone for free and it is just crazy with all the power it has.
    11)AutoPligg is ok if you have 5$ to invest in the captcha solving,also you can find it cracked on most of other blackhat forums.
    12)Proxy Madness v2 for finding proxies and v3 for checking,you should get this,it is free and its good.
    13)SeoPressor if you use wordpress will help you optimize your articles for search engines
    14)Submit some documet to document archives/document directoris and supply a backlink in description,such links are rare and I guess appriciated by google.
    15)Edu and Gov forums,register on those forums and make 10-50 posts manually on each of them within time of few days to not look spammy,then put your link in signature.
     
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  17. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    This is totally wrong
    I'm running a scrapebox test atm pulling AA blogs direct from feeds ... one comment per domain creating lists of around 100k AA blogs
    Google has counted every last comment so far (for a very competitive term)

    And also the site has gone from not in top 1000 to #12 in around 5 days.
     
  18. pietpatat

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    The panda update was about unique content and had nothing to do with spammy backlinks. Google has been punishing spammy backlinks for many years.
     
  19. takeachance

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    No, its not totally wrong at all. If you hadn't noticed from this thread there are many examples of occasions when it works and when it doesn't. What does this tell you? It says that many different factors are at play in terms of whether a direct blast will be successful - you simply ave to use your won skill and judgement to make the call whether your site can hold up to the attainment of many links.
     
  20. bfellow

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    If you are getting your site de-indexed after an SB blast, you are doing the blast wrong. With SB it's all about maintaining link velocity. Google keeps a link graph on all websites. A sudden 100,000 links in 24 hour with no growth after that throws up a huge red light.

    If you take the same 100,000 links and do them over say 10 weeks, you will climb the serps in a breeze. Everyone keeps talking about the type of link or the link count when you really need to look at time. How many links over how long of a period of time. This is one big tool Google use to tell the different between spam blasts and a site going viral.

    I took a brand new domain and slammed the living shit out of it. tens of thousands of link on some day. But that I did was keep velocity up over time. I never sandboxed, never de-indexed, and it continues to sit there and make me money even though I slowed the links down over time to nothing. Here is a link to a thread I have maintained over several months about this concept.
     
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