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100% retention views = sux?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by nodyguy, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. nodyguy

    nodyguy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    guys, I uploaded a video and added it 70k retention views from bigbuddy, I got 100% retention views, and my video doesn't rank when the competition is realy low, actually its not even on top 100 of youtube...
    do you guys think its because its 100%? if yes, what should I do?

    I added likes, comments, embed on my site, bought 600SB, added few backlinks...
    Thanks!
     
  2. zerofoxtrot

    zerofoxtrot Senior Member

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    Did you try to wait? You aren't exactly going to rank #1 instantly, of course.
     
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  3. J@bz.

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    I have the same problem cant seem to rank... the position wont even budge its on page 18 :(
     
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    have you added the keywords for which you are targeting in tag and description ??
    dont just buy retention view ...buy some normal views too, also mix of twitter and fb referer along with google referrer ..
     
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    Make sure you have the proper on page "seo" to give your video a fighting chance. The fact that you added likes and comments could hurt you more than help you, depending on several variables that revolve around anything from those accounts age and quality, to the proxies used when performing those actions.
     
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    Hey, mobile retention views got patched and it could be the reason..

    I suggest you to upload new video and try with fb , google referrer views which has less retention along with few likes and comments.
     
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  7. diemou

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    I bought views from bigbuddy too. Received 10 k , added around 10k views more , 100 likes , 15 comments. It took me 10 days and finally I am on first page in saturateed niche.
     
  8. The-Truth

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    I see this happen all the time.

    A lot of people do exactly this:

    - Buy views and hope to rank

    When they don't , they panic and start smashing other things (likes, comments etc)

    When that doesn't work, they smash scrapebox links because people on fiverr offer a ton of them for $5.


    Let me make a comprison to a website:

    Say you blasted a webpage with xrumer.

    Then you realized that you weren't ranking, so you blasted it with social bookmarks.

    You still weren't ranking so you blasted it with everything you got.

    Would this look natural to anyone?


    Unless you have views,likes,subs,comments and links coming in at the same time and with a good ratio, you WILL NOT get the results you want.






     
  9. nodyguy

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    mhmm, so should I delete the vid and reupload and it and buy FB reffer retention views?
     
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    LMAO. I love these threads because I can offer a some insight for YouTube strategies. First, there are several factors based on ranking YouTube videos. Your channel age, your exact title of video, your channel name, your channel views count, your video views, your minutes watched on video, your likes, comments, subscribers, the views pouring into your video, and finally if there are any social signals and backlinks? This all has to look very natural to YouTube. I'm almost 100% sure you will find that YouTube will tweak algorithm to bounce videos around in search results to see what will be the highest performing video so there ADS CAN BE WATCHED MORE.

    So again, how many of your views converted into cash for YouTube? With mobile or fake views these don't convert, and you are missing 1 important factor YouTube cares about. MONEY!!! So this is why views are important for HIGH QUALITY CONTENT VIDEOS. You never see people who boost quality content videos complaining because after the initial boost their fanbase and the natural views coming in starts making money for YouTube.
     
  11. Cratos

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    LOL your not getting the point.. a lot more strategy is involved in ranking youtube videos. Its not just about the views. Of course retention views may help speed up the process, however retention views are not needed in order for me to rank a video on YT or big G. It's all about using proper search engine optimization tactics.

    Just have a stroll around the forum, research is required in order to know what works and what doesn't work.
     
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    the point is im not trying to rank saturated niche or something, I know that for saturated niche those factors aren't enough but, its a very low competition and Im pretty sure that in past I didnt need anything to rank vid for this niche... but it seems that youtube changed something...
    anyways, any tips to create backlinks for vids?[I have FB page and I post sometimes the video over there + desc]
     
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  14. SolveMyMaze

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    I would agree that it does take a while to rank a video, but I always assumed that this was the case anyway by the time a crawl is done.
    One of my videos thats been unassisted is now ranking number 1 after 3 months and it's getting a steady stream of views each day.
    I would always recommend mixing up normal and retention views though. I would have thought if you had x amount of people watching your video for say 5 minutes and then it dropped back to say no views would trip an alarm on YouTube that something dodgy is going on.

    In my opinion though, the holy trinity of natural YouTube promotion is FB, Twitter and Hubpages!
     
  15. Wealthy Wisdom

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    This may be a bad thing for the noobs... but the veterans will still play the game just like before. Might just cost a bit more to rank now.. oh well :)
     
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    true..
     
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    In my experience it honestly hasn't hurt my ranking with 50,000 100% retention views. In fact I sky-rocketed to #1...

    Maybe this won't last for long however and google will wisen up :/
     
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    So, you need retention views or ranking? I hope you are not flaming bigBuddy in any ways. as a YT viewer, I can guarantee you one thing.. If your video is not good enuff, I will not watch it till the end and I will make sure that it gets a thumb down. No retention view can prevent that, because I am real ....