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100% new content or perfectly rewritten content?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spydj, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Hi

    First of all: thats the first time i try get one of my pages ranked well by google. i have never done it before, so please excuse my noob question

    does it matter if the content used is costum made for me (i.e. article writing service) or would it be okay to use rewriten stuff (copyscape passed)? will google be able to tell the difference?

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  2. brchcar1445

    brchcar1445 Regular Member

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    Haha if anyone knew the exact answer to that question it would help a lot of people. There is a lot of speculation out there about duplicate content. But remember its all speculation. From my personal experience I have not been affected by duplicate content. I can have 3 or 4 different pages on the front page of google with identicle information. A lot of times you will see with search results on the top pages in google the same article will be listed, ony with different sites.

    What I have heard and believe myself is there is no duplicate content filter with google. Its possible that if reported or someone went extremely overboard with duplicate content it could get found and manually penalized by google. I truly believe their filters only penalize sites that have duplicate content on the same site. If you create different pages with the same content. I have done that before and got sandboxed, even affter I removed the additional pages the site still never recovered. And to this day remains in the upper 300. Nothing I do can bring that up. That was about 6 months ago. But I have never been hit with any kind of penelty for using duplicate content. I prefer fresh stuff but depending on the project, dup will work just fine.

    Remember that is only my speculation. Take what you will.
     
  3. spydj

    spydj Registered Member

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    Okay, well thanks for you speculation. I guess i will have to just try it myself and learn from mistakes i am might going to do :)

    If any1 wants to let me know his point of view, i´d realy appreciate it
     
  4. trophaeum

    trophaeum Senior Member

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    theres a hell of a lot more factors to ranking than just content, 90% of my pages dont pass copyscape on the whitehat sites i build... thats about all ill say there
     
  5. mtravel13

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    well my take on this is that there is no penalty for dup but there is some kind of variable on google`s algo , like if two pages have identical backlinks structure then whichever is more unique in percentage or less dupe would rank better .

    make sure content is at least 30-40% unique on one side and 60-70% on higher side to be safe and keep more attention on backlinks , this is something what works for me
     
  6. trophaeum

    trophaeum Senior Member

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    oh theres a penalty alright, just depends if you work around it or not
     
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    thenonpareil Regular Member

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    And how, may I ask, are those whitehat sites doing?
     
  8. cooooookies

    cooooookies Senior Member

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    What G definitely checks is if the content of your backlink sites is similar. You see that if you give your sites a blast with XRumer; if you check then the serp results, G says that it skipped so many ... similar results. So individual pages are cross checked. But can G also compare content globally, means check against all available content in the internet? Sounds technically very difficult, but:

    I do also tend to that G knows somehow for dup content, not everywhere, not for every phrase. In that case I do assume that a penalty is given. Many people here report being on #1 with copied content, so if there is a problem, you can overcome it with just more links presumably :) If you can build links slowly, automatically and halfway organically seeming, I would not care about dup content at all.

    Let's also assume the following: dup content means, somebody was first to publish something, so he must be the original author, right? I see at least no other criterium.
    But: G is not fast enough to know all sites at once, so it could happen, that a small pr whatever site is just not spidered quick enough, whilst the same content found its way to myspace etc. Consequences of that are clear, eh? On the other hand, G also has the G cache... there is thereby something like a content timeline for websites available. So seemingly, G could be able within a timeframe and probability (depending on how quick G spiders the internet) to determine who publishes first.
     
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  9. TinyHulk

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    Agreed :)

    The more duplicated pages the higher the risk.
     
  10. trophaeum

    trophaeum Senior Member

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    all first page due to evil bh link building tricks that look nice and wh :)