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10 Years in IM and 15 Without a Boss (Reflection and AHA Moments)

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  1. Elliot305

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    2017 is around the corner which gives me about a decade in the biz. I've seen big players fall and major networks crumble. A lot has changed but a lot remains the same. Peeps are still hustlin' to break-through the grind, new trends come and go, some make it, some don't, etc. But it's good to see the eco-system alive albeit more complex due to tougher regulations, stricter policies and increased competition. Although it's harder nowadays, I still see the resolve and drive people have remaining strong.

    This post isn't about giving specific advice but more to make you aware of "AHA" moments that you'll inevitable come across in your IM career. For these moments you'll either recognize and take action on 'em, or you'll dismiss and look right through 'em. These moments could change your life's trajectory, like a ship going off-course just a fraction of a degree when setting for voyage and once it reaches the final destination its hundreds of miles away from port. These moments can range from a simple everyday task you do to telling your boss you QUIT! We're all here for the same reasons for the most part, financial freedom. So, let me tell you a story if I may.

    I'm a very different person now versus when I was working for "the man." I was sociable, obedient, naive and not motivated by money. I was just happy to have a job to support myself. My problem was I didn't realize how much opportunity was out there, I just needed to see that AHA moment and capitalize on it.

    In 2002 I was deeply in debt and getting harassed by debt collectors. I was working as a security guard but the pay barely covered my expenses. The calls got worse as time went on. I contacted a Consumer Rights Attorney who told me to record the calls and we'd meet after. My first intro into hustlin' began with him. I was coached on what to say, ask and how to respond to certain threats the collectors made. He would then file the cases against the abusive collectors and we split the settlements. Our first case netted $14,500 and I received about 7gs. To say the least I was ecstatic.

    We played the game over several months and settled more cases. It was at this point I found my first AHA moment. I said to myself "why do I need him when I know the game?" Well, I didn't so I told him to give me my last 2 cases back where I would do it myself. The look he gave me was something of "I'm the lawyer here kid, you're the deadbeat." It was that decision which spring-boarded my life into a whole new direction. Workload was now solely up to me and so were the paychecks.

    I made a career out of suing telemarketers and debt collectors up till 2006. That's when I got into IM. But unlike most newbs, I had an edge of knowing there's a game in this industry too, I just needed to be on the lookout for that AHA moment again and capitalize. I am grateful to have made the transition back in '07 and have been the benefactor of some lucky runs. My advice to anyone starting out or stalling out; look at opportunities from all possible angles rather than just reading an exact method word-for-word on this forum. There is SO MUCH opportunity within a given niche, platform, traffic source, you name it. Don't fall for what your eyes see as text on a post, rather, get inspired by the text you read and use your creativity to develop something after that. I literally get my best ideas late at night when I'm trying to fall asleep and its just me and my thoughts (no distractions or influence from others).

    Although it pains and annoys me to see people blaming that a given method doesn't work anymore, you're NEVER bound by the words on someone's post who provided it. Your first blame should come from within on why you failed to develop it into something great. I hold myself to a high standard and failure is always something I direct inward rather than outward. Start thinking on those terms and your mind may provide you with so much more opportunity than a method. Everybody fails, it happens. But the ones who examine themselves as to why they failed are the ones that learn from such experiences and over time those failures come less and less.

    In closing, my ship turned a slight degree back when I first met that attorney. I am now a completely different person (for the good and bad) but I wouldn't change a thing about my lifestyle or choices made over the last 15 years. Hope I'll be in this game for another decade.

    I love the grind and spirit of this place.

    Peace
     
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  2. Elin Dotsya

    Elin Dotsya Junior Member

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    As though IM wasn't hard enough as it was. Now Dotsya must work even more without pay.

    I guess I'm one of the people who look right through them. I haven't had a boss in over 6 years, though. I barely scrape by.

    I was depressed and hated myself/my life back when I had a "stable job". I've gotten better and no longer feel that way about myself, but now people piss me off.

    Still looking for that AHA moment.

    Yuck... I picture these guys when I think of debt collectors.

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    Whew, so you learned how the law works? I know enough about the legal system to never want to go anywhere near it. The entire thing gives me the heebie-jeebies.

    I read somewhere about the correct way to speak to telemarketers that gives them something to sweat about and to record what they say so you could use it against them later. I can't remember where I read this.

    Cool, if I saw the moment would I have known to take it? I don't know for sure.

    See, that's where I fail. I don't know how many methods I have tried in the past several years and only made some small change with about two of them. I don't know how to NOT follow them word-for-word.

    Brb phoning God and asking for a refund because whatever it was I got is nothing like the creativity people seem to be talking about. I have no idea what I'm doing most of the time.

    I have this as well, except I don't know how to monetize those ideas.

    Blaming yourself or others is irrelevant. I have done both. I have laughed and I have cried. None of it changes anything. I think I have spent way too much of my time blaming myself for being a failure. I really don't know what to do.

    I have done both and I also hold myself to a high standard, even higher than I expect to see from others.

    Again, I have done these things before and nothing is happening yet. I'm trying to understand how to flip that switch in my head to see things the way people like you do. It took a long ass time to learn "common sense" and even now I still struggle with it sometimes let alone things that people say we must know.

    I'm different than I was back then also. If I knew what I now know a decade ago I wouldn't even have went to college. I would have taken my butt online and started something (no sexual innuendo). What exactly - I don't know.
     
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  3. Elliot305

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    Opportunity is everywhere, just keep looking for new ways to monetize ideas or methods you may find here. Trying something word-for-word isn't always the best approach.
     
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  4. Elin Dotsya

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    You know what? Even though I'm not seeing anything - I won't give up. I'll keep trying until something works. As I get better at it I'll add more methods into the mix.

    If that's what it takes to succeed then so be it.
     
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    This post encapsulates everything that I love about this world. We are living in an age where we can think of an idea or twist, and we can make money from it online with little to no overhead. The internet allows you to access millions of people which you can market your ideas too.

    I love the fact that I only have to spend one hour a day maintaining my business and that I make more money than both of my parents with their 30-year careers combined.

    Keep on hustling folks and reap the rewards
     
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    Yeap, at night our brains work mainly on alpha brainwaves (compared to beta brainwaves at day, which make us stay "more alive"). The alpha brainwaves have been described by literally, millions of people throughout history. Napoleon Hill in his ebook "Think and Grow Rich", describes how he concentrates and gets tons of ideas from the ether by taking advantage of these natural alpha brainwaves, though he doesn't explain in this form due to studies of the brain being in their childhood years.

    Anyway, I have to agree a ton with this. It's all about finding what works, and making it your own way. It will always work like that.
     
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    This seem to be more common than I thought, I often have insane, genius-like visions and ideas during those moments on the verge of falling asleep state, the problem is I can't remember them in the morning and it's difficult to cope and quickly awaken yourself with the idea still captured in your mind.
     
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    Usually when I'm laying down in the dark and my minds racing, instead of waking myself up to turn a light on to write in a notebook or even worse wake up the monitor to type. I have my phones recording feature ready so that I can just speak my thoughts and ideas out, listening to the recording when I wake up.

    This is an app I recommend for such a thing.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andrwq.recorder&hl=en

    It's called 'Smart Voice Recorder' and what's smart about it is it only records when it hears some noise. Meaning you can say something for 2 minutes, and stop talking, then 5 minutes later you have another idea. Well it records only the ideas and leaves out the blank quietness in between.
     
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    Just read this thread, kinda late I know.

    But your story is impressive.

    I've been doing IM for quite some years had great years and had bad years, eventually I quit IM and came back last year, already making the minimum wage in my country from IM alone but that's not good enough for me, I don't settle for average or mediocre, so while I work in IM I also work as a security guard (like you did!) unfortunately the security guard companies in my country are corrupt as fuck. Maximum work hours per day is 8 but they force people to work 12 hour shifts to save money for the company, instead of having 5 man work in 8 hour shifts they have 3.


    It's funny about your loophole talk and how you sued companies and shit, but I'm way too uneducated in that subject to go that far and honestly I don't even know how I should start to begin with. I did send an anonymous complaint to the employees rights association or whatever the fuck its called in the USA, and funny enough I sent it 2 days ago before reading this thread, hopefully something will change, I don't necessarily need this job but I'm just not happy having the minimum salary. Wanted to work until my IM was 2x the minimum salary and try to upscale from there.
     
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    Inspiring read, appreciate!
     
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    Thanks for sharing Elliot
    "failure is always something I direct inward rather than outward" - I like the attitude.

    Opportunities will always be there, the challenge is to know where to look I guess.
     
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    Cool story to read.. the whole I sue you because of xyz stuff is for USA and T1 countries mostly, in other places they just tell you to go screw yourself :D The biggest lesson I have learned is that never believe people who tell "xyz is dead". In 2012 I thought about doing Twitter marketing but I didn't try because people were saying that it's dead, Twitter doesn't convert etc. Then in the beginning of 2016 (4 years later) I tried it and it was the easiest money ever - but then couple of months later Twitter started the whole follow ghosting, phone verification fuckery which made everything fuck tons harder and decreased ROI significantly. I could have made mad easy money for 4 years but I believed some "great philosophers" on BHW that the method was dead..
     
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