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1 page web2.0's or blog posts on pr network - pros and cons?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SlappinDaBees, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. SlappinDaBees

    SlappinDaBees Regular Member

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    My current SEO strategy involves building web2.0 blogs with unique content, mostly one pagers, which I backlink with wikis and bookmarks. They all index pretty fast and when the wikis finally start indexing (takes long, because I don't always scrapebox blast them) they pass on some juice.
    But I'm considering replacing these new web2.0 with high pr blog posts from a 'private' network. They will index even faster, already have pr and link juice. Simply said, less worries and less time consuming. The only downsides are that you don't fully control your tier 1 and the obvious risk of deindexing the network. But please confirm this first;
    A blog link from a pr 3 domain will have more value and impact then a blog link from a new created web2.0 blog with 1 page and new backlinks to it, right? Any insight from you guys is appreciated.. Cheers
     
  2. politico

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    For the most part what you're saying is true. With your Web2.0 properties I would suggest making them more than single pagers, this will help with the perceived authority of that link. 5 - 10 pages/posts is a good rule to go by.

    High PR Private Network posts are also really great help. But one thing to also keep in mind is that these posts are "new" as well. It's the domain that has the PR, not the individual blog post. So similar to the Web 2.0 you're creating, the domain has a high PR, but the property you create is new.

    There will be no PR on the new post/page/web2.0 unless it gets linked to, shared, etc.

    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong in this regard.
     
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    I'm suggest you to create web2.0's rather than private networks. Most of the network blog posts are not worthy once after a month. If you need short term quick boost consider network blogs otherwise go for web2.0.

    For to stable your backlinks source, you have to update the web2.0's frequently with fresh contents and second tier links.
     
  4. SlappinDaBees

    SlappinDaBees Regular Member

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    You're right about the actual article page not having any pr but I assume the pr from the rootdomain will also have some influence. If not, high pr domains and networks would become obsolete because everyone would be starting new web2.0's and domains. Also, the post is placed on the homepage for a while (not permanent unfortunately) which should give it a short-term boost with the likelyhood of long lasting effects in the serps.

    I'm looking at this at a full cost, time and seo effect perspective. Creating fresh web2.0 with more than 1 article also costs a lot of money on content. And you've also gotta buildlinks to them which also come with a price tag.

    Why would they decrease in value if the domain/network doesn't get deindexed?
     
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    I agree with the earlier post. Your WEB 2.0 properties should have a few articles in there on multiple pages (at least 2). Write the content yourself if the cost is too much. It takes me 15 mins to write a 350 word article. The article needs to only be unique and relevant to the industry you are targeting. You aren't trying to win a Pulitzer award here :)

    Then blast it with some low quality backlinks to get indexed fast.

    The more you put into those WB 2.0s, the more link juice they will pass to the money site.
     
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    There are no cons to making web 2.0's, they are one of the strongest properties you can work with in the world of SEO. Just keep adding a second tier to them over time and their PR will eventually go up, giving the link to your site more juice.
     
  7. Rasacz

    Rasacz Power Member

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    Why don't mix both? I can provide you as much high pr web 2.0 domains as you want. Can be high PA, any number of backlinks and any niche you want.
    If you are interested then my skype is: Rasacz
     
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    I would avoid the high pr blog networks where people can pay to submit anything they want membership type sites...I use manual web 2.0's and then blast them with a blog network pyramid.
     
  9. tranza

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    I got a question, if i only post one link to my money site, and eventually keep adding content to the web 2.0 and link pointing to the web 2.0, would it still pass linkjuice to my moneysite o i gotta builds link to the post where i dropped my link?.
     
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    A fresh network, only contains few posts. so, the OBL is low. But after a month or two the OBL increases higher and your posts may leave homepage within a week or two. But your own web2.0's doesn't have any other links and will stick forever.
     
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    use fo good established private networks will be a good choice.. its been over 1 yr since i have been using such services and ranking my clients at top (yes even after the updates)
     
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    I would choose web 2.0 properties over blog posting every time. With web 2.0 you control everything. You also get to include video and other media which is becoming huge in SEO and will get even bigger. You can constantly update 2.0 properties with new content as well. Its not as time consuming and costly as you think once you get the process down and if you are doing it right the rewards should be far larger then the costs.
     
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    I think web 2.0 are better in the long run, as you control them, and you can add images/videos related to your niche.
     
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    Web 2.0 already come with high domain authority all you will have to do is back them up with some links and they will bring allot of juice.
    Also you can target them only for your niche, so that it will look natural in google's viewe, while blog networks might post all the crap beside your niche.
     
  15. Nattsurfaren

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    LOL you guys. How can you even compare these two. Web 2.0 is so a vague definition so most people doesn't get any wiser. You can practically mean anything by saying web 2.0.
     
  16. SlappinDaBees

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    Actually not.. I clearly mentioned 1 page web 2.0 BLOGS => wordpress, tumblr, etc.
     
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    So if wordpress is 2.0 what blogging platform is not?
    Just saying the picture I get of web 2.0 is the social bit and the media sharing bit but if the definition is larger (more abstract) then how can people understand the complete idea. Sprinkling a couple of the methods leaves important bits in the dark if people starts to think -"Well everyone knows about that so I don't have to explain the 2.0 part because it is self explanatory from the context"
     
  18. SlappinDaBees

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    We're getting slightly offtopic here but anyways.. A web2.0 property is any property, no matter what hosting or platform, you can use to create contextual links on. The only exceptions are an article directory and wikis, which are also a contextual link type but it's a type of its own. So to put it simple.. something like mysite.wordpress.com or www.anysite.com/my-site is considered a web2.0 ...
    I don't know whether other people do this but I consider mysite.wordpress.com a web2.0 BLOG and www.anysite.com/my-site a regular web2.0

    Somethings in IM are kinda obvious and logical so please don't make it more complicated than it already is :p jk
     
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    Thanks for clearing it up. I hopefully get less confused in anyones next post I read. :)
     
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    I'd advice using both, the more linking variety on tier 1 the better. Web 2.0's, blog networks, social bookmarks, blog comments, press releases, guest posts, doc sharing etc..

    PS: Don't forget to diversify your keywords!