Whats the longest payment processor cloaking worked for you?

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Hi,
I saw a lot of people talking about using different payment providers with a cloaked page, i was wondering whats the longest yall stayed unnoticed and when what was it that gave it away ex high volue, manual check etc.

And what happened afterwards, they just cancelled ? kept the money?

Thanks!
 
No system can guarantee 100% safety. A so-called cloaking system can only help distribute risks, not eliminate them.
If an account gets restricted, it doesn't necessarily mean the system caused it. It could also result from routine reviews or risk controls.
You should be fully aware of the potential risks, including account freezes, withheld funds, or even possible forfeiture in certain circumstances.
 
The real question isn't about how long your clocking stays under radar.

But what happens when the actual processor reviews your actual system?

Even if the cloaker passed, there are chargebacks, customer dispute settlement reviews, or a mismatch between declared and actual business activity that can trigger an investigation and get your account blocked.

The worst part is it not always cloaking issue, it is having your balance locked, holding reserve in process, or payout delayed for months.

All depends on the processor terms and outstanding liabilities.
 
Hey, we did cloaking for casinos, and must say it depends, what's your ticket size usually? In the hundreds or thousands, expect a week. if your business is peptides, it's harder for stripe or paypal to detect the card ips and match them to other fraudulent stripe accounts, we had it for around a month. best thing is to invest in a real psp to cloak your stuff, although you need the person with the ID to actually be present in calls. this is what we did, and we've had things running for 2 years now, processing gray area stuff for some of our peptides peeps, some lower risk casinos, and other stuff.
 
From what I’ve seen, it really depends on the provider. High volume and manual reviews seem to be common triggers, and outcomes vary from account termination to funds being held during review
 
also, instant killer is this: you start "test payments" from your own cards through the psp and they will put your account under review. every time we did this our acc was closed. even on our real psp we have now, did this to actually test things, and they gave me a warning. i asked them, and they said people do this to "loan themself money without getting taxed" (because loans aren't taxed) , so watch out for this and don't do it
 
Well, there's 2 things: page cloaking (hide offer from the ad platform) and payment cloaking (hide payment details from the processor). In both you always need to keep in mind that they will eventually fail, depending mainly on how the setup was made. But all in all, depending on your offer, a good cloaker for the page offer could last from one week up to 2 or 3 months. About payment cloaker, it all depends on how much you process, how many proxy accounts you got and how you handle the payload. But all in all, usually it could last 4 or 5 months if you don't use it much, and maybe 3 or 4 weeks if used intensely. I won't go further on that because i don't know if we are allowed to discuss this here
 
Well, there's 2 things: page cloaking (hide offer from the ad platform) and payment cloaking (hide payment details from the processor). In both you always need to keep in mind that they will eventually fail, depending mainly on how the setup was made. But all in all, depending on your offer, a good cloaker for the page offer could last from one week up to 2 or 3 months. About payment cloaker, it all depends on how much you process, how many proxy accounts you got and how you handle the payload. But all in all, usually it could last 4 or 5 months if you don't use it much, and maybe 3 or 4 weeks if used intensely. I won't go further on that because i don't know if we are allowed to discuss this here
Thank you finally a reply that actually answered the Question :D
 
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