DR Resolved @atlantious vs. @Fostack

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Username: @atlantious

Please create your Dispute title using the format in the description below. @atlantious vs. @Fostack

Are you the buyer or seller? Buyer

What is the date the incident took place? Sep 13, 2026

What is the name of the accused? @Fostack

Did you encounter the accused on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you started a chargeback with your bank or a Dispute with the payment provider over the transaction? No

Have you contacted the accused via DM (direct message) here on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you informed the accused of the Dispute? Yes

Please add the URL (link) to the location the transaction took place here on BlackHat World.
https://tronscan.org/transaction/058cad6f8a004fcc8a851375e643cf064ab70df2517b50293cc5bfac2e1dfe19/overview

What product category best describes the product/service involved in your Dispute? Marketing services

Please describe the purchase or service involved in your dispute. Cloaking service - google ads setup + domains, google account rental

What is the USD amount involved in your Dispute? $400

Please describe the reason for submitting a Dispute, in detail.
He promised to fulfill the cloaking services, but he couldn't; he says hosting is the issue, and all info stays there, but he just can't do a cloaking service and lying, he told me under 48hr it would be done, it's been about a week, he couldn't, I asked him to send my money back, he says his transaction is under hold, and i have to wait for 7 days, he bought BTC and sent screenshot of his purchase instead of transaction hash. So he is experienced scammer and knows how to bypass the direct scam, he does it via working in time. To recap this he promised to deliver results in 48hr, but he could not, and he has not send my money back.

Please detail exactly how you have tried to resolve your issue before now.
ask him to refund, but he did not send back

What kind of outcome are you looking for from this Dispute?
him to recognize the reality and send back my money.

Please paste any URLs that point to evidence for your Dispute.
https://tronscan.org/transaction/058cad6f8a004fcc8a851375e643cf064ab70df2517b50293cc5bfac2e1dfe19/overview , https://tronscan.org/transaction/0522288d1c392d3638d76df2d7b518d99cf4662050c3518d71f2988f52cfe11c/overview

Please upload any screenshots, videos, or other document files that point to the required evidence.
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Please confirm you have sent a DM, here on BHW, to the accused? Yes

Please confirm there has been a 24 hour period between informing the accused of the dispute and right now? Yes

Please confirm that the transaction started on BHW via DM, sales thread, WTB/HAF threads, advertisement or signature. Yes

Please confirm that you have provided evidence of the transaction via URL, screen shot or video. Yes

Please confirm that you have explained what the dispute is about, in detail. Yes

Please confirm you have added all supporting evidence to show that you have a case for a dispute. Yes

By pressing the Submit button on this form, you certify that you have completed every step.

You acknowledge that skipping any of the requirements or failing to attach evidence that supports your case could result in this Dispute not only being deleted, but your account being given a warning. Yes
 
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Dispute Request Approved​
Information For The Accused
@Fostack, you have 24 hours to respond to this disputes thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the dispute starter and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

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@Fostack You're online currently - instead of posting gibberish threads in Lounge, please address this dispute.
 
Hi there,

As I said there's a withdrawal hold and thats sadly not something I can bypass. It's already been 3 days so there should be 4 days remaining or something.

@atlantious, thou speakest not the truth! I've NEVER said I wasn't willing to refund, I even went so far as to propose an extra 50 dollars as an apology for the delay, but you refused.

So calling me a scammer is a tad senseless

Anyways no hard feelings, you'll see once you get your refund in like 4 days.

Cheers
 
Fostack said:
Hi there,

As I said there's a withdrawal hold and thats sadly not something I can bypass. It's already been 3 days so there should be 4 days remaining or something.

@atlantious, thou speakest not the truth! I've NEVER said I wasn't willing to refund, I even went so far as to propose an extra 50 dollars as an apology for the delay, but you refused.

So calling me a scammer is a tad senseless

Anyways no hard feelings, you'll see once you get your refund in like 4 days.

Cheers
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You don't have 4 days - you have 24 hours.
 
SettingSun77 said:
@Fostack You're online currently - instead of posting gibberish threads in Lounge, please address this dispute.
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Sorry for that, I went a bit nervous when I saw that dispute and I sometimes cant control my emotions when I get crazy but my normal part of me realized I should address this dispute properly so as to not get banned
 
Fostack said:
Sorry for that, I went a bit nervous when I saw that dispute and I sometimes cant control my emotions when I get crazy but my normal part of me realized I should address this dispute properly so as to not get banned
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Fair enough - but you have 24 hours to issue a refund here, if that's what you've agreed to do.
 
SettingSun77 said:
You don't have 4 days - you have 24 hours.
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Sadly, I don't have many solutions.

The withdrawal hold is not something I can control.

The only way I could send him the refund within 24h is by asking my friend to send it from his non custodial wallet, which could potentially work imo as I think he'd be ok with that. But the thing is that if my friend sends the money from his own wallet, @atlantious will receive the refund x2 as the transaction (which is on hold) on Kraken cannot be "undone"

So is it really fair if he receives 2 refunds? I dont think so
 
Fostack said:
Sadly, I don't have many solutions.

The withdrawal hold is not something I can control.

The only way I could send him the refund within 24h is by asking my friend to send it from his non custodial wallet, which could potentially work imo as I think he'd be ok with that. But the thing is that if my friend sends the money from his own wallet, @atlantious will receive the refund x2 as the transaction (which is on hold) on Kraken cannot be "undone"

So is it really fair if he receives 2 refunds? I dont think so
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If you want to keep your account on here and to be able to trade again, we're sure you'll find a way.
 
SettingSun77 said:
If you want to keep your account on here and to be able to trade again, we're sure you'll find a way.
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Can you please give me 24h to come up with a solution? I'll need to contact Kraken to ask them to cancel the transaction and then I'll try to have my friend send the money from his wallet
 
Fostack said:
Can you please give me 24h to come up with a solution? I'll need to contact Kraken to ask them to cancel the transaction and then I'll try to have my friend send the money from his wallet
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We have already said on a couple of occasions you have that amount of time.

Please don't attempt to trade during that time, by the way, the team will be monitoring.
 
SettingSun77 said:
We have already said on a couple of occasions you have that amount of time.

Please don't attempt to trade during that time, by the way, the team will be monitoring.
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I'll not log in to BHW till I come up with a solution in 24h. So you can be sure I won't be dealing via PM.

I'm a man of my word, and I promise I won't.

See you tomorrow
 
Fostack said:
I'm a man of my word
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Debatable.

Dispute Summary​

The accused has been permanently banned from Black Hat World for failing to resolve this dispute.

The dispute thread will remain live and is now open to commentary as rule 4 is no longer enforced in this thread.

Thread Open For Commentary​

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I want to know the rules of how bhw ban system work. Like what a premium/jr vip or market seller can get banned although I know scam is a legitimate reason but what else than that?
 
Wow, who could imagine this lovely creature would be a scammer... @LilMosey reported this guy 4 months ago

I myself reported this guy several weeks ago...we are clairvoyant here

I don't know the next lottery numbers, but my crystal ball is enough if anyone wants to know the next gray names, it's easy and predictable, those scammers are lazy and low IQ

but due to the "we need more evidences" policy around, they will be here scamming without any repercussions...this one, months scamming on BHW, this scam alone is enough to buy another upgrade and even submit a new BST to start selling $2k products

Many others like him are still around, we report, nothing happens, in 2 weeks or 2 months, eventually they will be banned once someone finally opens a dispute. In the meantime, they freely scam.
 
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