Two Decades on BHW, Never Sold Anything — Retiring Soon: Ask Me ANYTHING (Nothing Off Limits)

What are some of the biggest lessons you have learned over the years?

Similar to thoughts I've already shared ITT - the biggest two;

1. How valuable data / email lists are. Closing a forum down after the purpose it served was no longer available. Sure, the niche no longer existed. But don't fucking delete backups of the 80,000 (yes, eighty thousand) email addresses I had. for future use in a related niche. But that's what I did. Lmao.

2. Ditch the "This is interesting, I think I could make a business out of this, I'll think about it" and then take weeks, or months to act. What are you waiting for? What purpose does the delay serve? It doesn't. Act the same day you have the idea, ESPECIALLY if the initial outlay is little more than a domain reg fee and hosting. Instead of sitting on the idea and convincing yourself you need to take time to decide on pursuing it, start NOW and benefit from that month or two from trial and error on a live project.

This also extends to my experience as a consultant for physical businesses. The amount of times I've sat in meetings where ideas are being pushed around and the directors say "That's interesting, we will definitely consider that". WTF? What are we considering? Do it or don't. Don't push bullshit around the room. If you have an idea and your immediate gut feeling is "this might work". Pursue it, the very same day. All this "brainstorming & planning" is bollocks. Stop delaying by making notes or writing up a business plan for a month, START. That way, even if the project is an abject failure, you've tried it and saved yourself time. That's so much better than 2 months of planning and then a third month to realise it's not a winning idea. Even better, launching immediately, failure or not, you'll have learnt shitloads. This knowledge from action compounds over time.

The beauty of IM is how quickly you can put things in place. It's not a brick and mortar business where you are delayed at the start due to finding a business rental etc.

Some of my biggest businesses/successes is I read/heard/watched something and it sparked an idea. 3-4 hours later, the domain and hosting were configured and a basic shell of a website was live. In the most extreme cases, I've made my first sale/commission from a business that I didnt even know I was going to setup 24hrs earlier.
 
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Woops, missed this reply, think you posted it just as I was replying to previous messages.

Yes, I noticed you'd not responded to it...and knew it was because you were responding to the others, so I had to hope and pray you'd: a) come back and scroll up, or b) check again and notice the question.

Not to mention even deciding to respond to me at all, which you 100% could have not done.

So, I'll thank you for taking the time to respond. I'll re-read your response a few times. :)

I guess "despise" is a strong word. I've been at it for 8 years and have learned a lot. It just sucks when it doesn't work.

For example, I used to hate maths. It was only after I learned HOW to solve the problems (by myself, through repetition, no strategy other than "brute force"), that maths suddenly became awesome! And now...Physics suddenly was awesome too because you'd see how variables interacted with one another and you could solve problems that way.

In IM, the formulas change all the time, nothing seems to be constant (other than human psychology?). A switch in direction, can land you miles opposite to where you want to be, 6 months from now. There are hard stops, resets, flushes...and then there's also "I don't know what I did, I was just lucky".

I guess that's just a bit annoying that's all. Feel like I should take a breather, but I'm a bit to stubborn to stop.
 
@XrumerGeek, if NOTHING is truly off limits:

1. What model you ran had the highest income ceiling with the lowest operational complexity?


2. Which business scaled past $20k/month the fastest, and why?


3. What was the most stable model you operated that lasted 2+ years?


4. What’s the closest thing you built that generated income with minimal ongoing involvement?


5. If you were starting from zero in 2026 with no contacts or reputation, what ONE model would you build first?


6. What model today still has strong margins and isn’t saturated?


7. What capped your smaller ventures from scaling further?


8. What’s the most boring business you ran that quietly made consistent money?


9. What’s one sales lever that dramatically increases close rate online?


10. What’s your most reliable upsell tactic that consistently increases average order value?


11. How do you create urgency without damaging long-term brand trust?


12. What’s the biggest mistake people make when building landing pages?


13. What separates a high-converting static lander from a “nice looking” site that doesn’t convert?


14. In parasite SEO, what intent signals do you look for before building a page?


15. What makes a parasite page last months instead of weeks?


16. What traffic source gave you the best ROI over multiple years?


17. What’s the most profitable skill you developed that most people ignore?


18. What strategy made you the most money short-term but hurt long-term stability?


19. What’s the biggest opportunity you ignored that you now regret?


20. What’s the fastest path to $10k/month today if you had to rebuild from scratch?
 
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How would you approach getting traffic nowadays? Especially given that advertising is turning more and more expensive, and ad network requirements and ToS are getting stricter, while social media platforms either expect you to pay for boosts or shadowban you?
 
In IM, the formulas change all the time, nothing seems to be constant (other than human psychology?). A switch in direction, can land you miles opposite to where you want to be, 6 months from now. There are hard stops, resets, flushes...and then there's also "I don't know what I did, I was just lucky".

I disagree here. Whilst the IM landscape is fluid and in a constant state of evolution - it's certainly not random and for the most part it's quite predictable in my experience. Methods, concepts, niches, revenue streams, traffic sources (to name a few) very rarely "die" overnight. Instead, there effectiveness, demand, or profitability decline over a period of time. In this sense, IM is no different to "real world" businesses. Blockbuster video rentals didn't go from Boom to Bust in a week. Their model became less desirable as a result of DVD players, then technology advances which resulted in customers pivoting to digital downloads, and finally the birth of streaming services. BTW - Blockbuster wasn't doomed to fail as a result; and they didn't go bust because of these factors. They went bust because they didn't pivot. They were in prime position to either sell to, or strike a sponsorship deal with these platforms and utilise their customerbase / data.

As for "I don't know what I did, I was just lucky". - As I've said ITT, you can solve this nagging doubt by making changes / performing split tests - but ONLY if you allow enough time to pass after each change so that you have a sample size of data that is meaningful. The minimum time you should wait before assessing traffic/revenue/conversions/ad copy (I could go on) is 30 days. If you chop and change every week, the data set is useless. At which point, you're statement becomes true. It's impossible to clarify with such a small sample size whether something has worked, not worked, or was neutral.

@XrumerGeek, if NOTHING is truly off limits:

1. What model you ran had the highest income ceiling with the lowest operational complexity?


2. Which business scaled past $20k/month the fastest, and why?


3. What was the most stable model you operated that lasted 2+ years?


4. What’s the closest thing you built that generated income with minimal ongoing involvement?


5. If you were starting from zero in 2026 with no contacts or reputation, what ONE model would you build first?


6. What model today still has strong margins and isn’t saturated?


7. What capped your smaller ventures from scaling further?


8. What’s the most boring business you ran that quietly made consistent money?


9. What’s one sales lever that dramatically increases close rate online?


10. What’s your most reliable upsell tactic that consistently increases average order value?


11. How do you create urgency without damaging long-term brand trust?


12. What’s the biggest mistake people make when building landing pages?


13. What separates a high-converting static lander from a “nice looking” site that doesn’t convert?


14. In parasite SEO, what intent signals do you look for before building a page?


15. What makes a parasite page last months instead of weeks?


16. What traffic source gave you the best ROI over multiple years?


17. What’s the most profitable skill you developed that most people ignore?


18. What strategy made you the most money short-term but hurt long-term stability?


19. What’s the biggest opportunity you ignored that you now regret?


20. What’s the fastest path to $10k/month today if you had to rebuild from scratch?

Oh my. I'm starting to regret not including "Max 3 questions per user" in the thread title. Haha, I joke. I will however, break my responses into separate replies as if I rattle through all 20 now I doubt I'd be providing any value. So, 1 through 5, lets do it.

1. What model you ran had the highest income ceiling with the lowest operational complexity?

Link selling / guest posts for sites you personally own, in specific niches. If you've got money to invest, buy sites in the sports (especially soccer) niche with good link profiles and reasonable DA/PA (it's a flawed metric, but it sells). Casinos, sports betting sites, matched betting platforms will all approach you to buy links without lifting a finger. Of course you can supercharge this by approaching them, too.

2. Which business scaled past $20k/month the fastest, and why?

Free to air, cardsharing, IPTV. Buy a mile. Lots of money in the grey/black areas. But there's a reason for that. Depending on where you live, these operations carry significant risk. Black market will always achieve huge margins, but the trade off is constantly covering your tracks and the little voice in the back of your head. I've done these kind of things for 19 years and on two occasions I've had to pay a lot of money to defence lawyers to keep me on the right side of the bars.


3. What was the most stable model you operated that lasted 2+ years?

Depends what you mean by stable. Income wise, it would be the type of businesses I referred to in question 2. FTA,cardsharing, IPTV. Income compounds over time, especially after month 12 when your yearly renewals start coming in. But it's not stable in terms of "set and forget". Payment gateways, parasite SEO, leaving no online footprint, utilising profits etc etc are incredibly time intensive.

Stable in terms of lower yield, but lower stress and no real management, that would be the sports sites network. These take up maximum 3 hours a week of my time - which is spent responding to link submission pricing / orders - and outsourcing content if they want us to write the guest post for example.


4. What’s the closest thing you built that generated income with minimal ongoing involvement?

I still own a network of relatively high authority sports forums, blogs, communities. My relatively, I mean strong link profiles but in terms of the numbers tools like SEMRush/AHREFS allocate, they aren't super special, circa 30/40. But the links are real. And betting companies, online casinos etc pay yearly fees for homepage links / guest posts on these sites. For as long as Google exists that income is locked in.


5. If you were starting from zero in 2026 with no contacts or reputation, what ONE model would you build first?

I'm going to assume by zero you mean if someone had no capital to invest and no experience. Day 1 of IM. Based on that, 2026 is tough. I'm not suggesting it's impossible to launch a website/service with no capital, but it's fucking hard. Much harder. You said model, though. The next couple of sentences to anyone who reads this post and acts on it will be better than any "make money" or ebook guide they could read. Do this for 3 months.

Day 1, I would research the basics of Reddit multiaccounting and upvoting. Day 3; I'd register a telegram, whatsapp and business email. I'd then reach out to online websites who were offering the following services; IPTV, Roms/Emulators for classic gaming (Hyperspin,Launchbox,Nintendo) - and if I had more time, I'd throw in counterfeit goods ecommerce sites, too. The offering to these businesses is simple; I'll target reddit posts open for comments which rank on page 1 for terms A,B,C,D,E related to your business. Comment on those posts, and upvote them for them for you (sending traffic to their lander (I actually posted an example of how easy this was yesterday right here on BHW here). People running businesses in those 3 spaces (like myself) are constantly looking for people to carry out this kind of work. Reach out to 100 a day and at least 10 will employ you. Rates for comments are around $3 - but this concept will take you less than a day or two to learn and understand. Through BHW reddit threads, simple Google research, and asking GPT specifics on aspects you're unsure of.

Assuming you didn't have a day job, and could commit 8-10 hours a day in month 1 (5 days a week), assuming you were still following the process 30 days later, you will have earnt at least $1500 (before fees, things like proxies, accounts). That's just fact. It's a bulletproof method. And a good example of how a "method" on it's own is only half of the recipe. You need method + identifiable targets who thrive of this traffic source. Will it be fun? Probably not, Will it teach you and clearly make you understand the concept of why people like me find this work so valuable - yes.

You don't have to do it forever. In fact, if you get to day 30, and have been fully committed to it; you're mind will be RACING with ideas on how to adapt this service, to instead drive traffic to your own projects (regardless of niche). And even if motivation/ideas doesn't hit you that quickly; by the end of month 3 you'll have $3k profit (at least) to supercharge a project of your own; where you can test ideas, take small financial risks, etc. Money does indeed go to money, cliche or not. It's not impossible to start today without it, but it's alot harder.

If anyone reading this reply has a goal to generate a side hustle income, or would be happy with $1500/month from month 1, I challenge you to do this for 30 days. I can guarantee if you put the hours in, you won't be revisiting this thread in 30 days to berate me and telling me it didn't work. Use it to give yourself capital to invest in your own projects; or if $1500/month turnover is good enough to make you comfortable, just carry on. Whichever camp you sit in, it will achieve what you want it to.

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Maybe I should have broken the questions into groups of three. The above took me 50 minutes to write and rewrite. Time for a nap.


I'll take 6 through 10 tomorrow evening. So much for retirement. :D

How would you approach getting traffic nowadays? Especially given that advertising is turning more and more expensive, and ad network requirements and ToS are getting stricter, while social media platforms either expect you to pay for boosts or shadowban you?

Shadowbans on social platforms are due to poor accounts, or repetitive actions. Also, shadowbans only matter when it's your only account. Create and warm 50 accounts - I promise you when 1 or 2 get shadowbanned / suspended you won't give a fuck. Bans are as sure as death and taxes. But they're irrelevant if you are multiaccounting. My iptv related business (journey thread here with some detailed info on social parasite) generates 90% of it's traffic from social platforms - comments get deleted every few hours, accounts are lost every few days - who cares? Rinse, repeat, replace.

With regards to getting traffic, give me a broad idea of what the end goal is. Are you driving traffic for ad revenue? For conversions of a product, a service? More details needed here.
 
Are you driving traffic for ad revenue? For conversions of a product, a service? More details needed here.
Traffic I had in mind would be for conversions of a service. For example, to drive traffic to an online video game.
 
I bet the business model of wepay-youpost.com is still working today. Maybe not in English because of the high competition and everyone believing into Reddit being the only way to go, but certainly for other languages.
 
how much easier was everything back then compared today?
since ai started beeing a big part of all the industries it was never easier to start something
but on the other hand the monitoring is crazy - what your opinion about the future of grey and blackhat stuff?
 
Hi @XtremeGeek, a massive salute to your 20-year journey! It’s rare to find a 'Guru' who’s actually lived through the evolution from old-school forum posting to modern AI-driven SEO.
I’m currently managing a complex portfolio in a competitive North American Chinese Service niche (Sensitive High-Ticket Service): 4 Main Sites + 5 Satellite Sites. I’m at a critical crossroads and would love your '10,000-foot' wisdom:
1. On Breaking 'Design & AI' Footprints: My 4 main sites share similar UI/UX layouts, and the content is 100% AI-generated with a consistent semantic fingerprint. Even with unique IPs, they seem 'stuck' in an algorithmic filter. I'm now deploying high-power PBNs to try and 'blast through' this. In your experience, can sheer PBN authority overcome a Style/AI Fingerprint penalty, or is re-designing the front-ends mandatory to 'reset' the trust?
2. High-Retention Crowdsourcing (CTR): I’m planning to use Crowdsourcing (SproutGigs style) to trigger 'Brand Search Volume'. However, I'm worried about high bounce rates. What is your #1 'Task Instruction' secret to force workers to stay on the site longer (Dwell Time) and engage naturally without looking like a bot? Is there a specific 'proof of work' that ensures they actually read the content?
3. The Link Profile Diversity & Safety: Beyond PBNs, what type of backlinks do you recommend for high-competition sensitive niches in 2026 to ensure long-term stability? Are Guest Posts on niche-relevant sites still the 'Gold Standard', or should I be looking at Digital PR/Media Placements to mask the aggressive PBN profile?
4. The 'AdsPower' Shadowban Trap: I’m running a 'digital military' using AdsPower + Static Residential IPs to do 'Piggybacking' (commenting on high-traffic Reddit/Quora threads). Beyond the obvious technical fingerprints, what is the #1 'Human Behavior' pattern (typing cadence, scroll depth, session length) that triggers modern AI mod-bots?
5. Satellite Site Strategy: For my 5 Satellite sites, should I use them as a 'buffer layer' to absorb aggressive PBN links before pointing to the main sites, or is Direct-to-Money-Site PBN bombing still viable if the PBN quality is high enough?
I’m ready to scale this agency-level operation, but I want to ensure my foundation isn't built on sand. Thank you for your wisdom, Legend!
 
been a few days ive been waiting to read the rest of the replies, is op ok?

It's the final week of the soccer season and there's a big event tonight so this weekend is exceptionally busy.

I'll revisit the thread and respond to replies above and any future replies on Mon/Tues.

Edit, thought this was the journey thread. Removed unrelated content.
 
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