Is blackhat SEO dead?

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People saying SEO is dead are lost souls.

Though i've just been browsing through the recent posts in the black hat section and everyones just talking about holistic SEO.

a full 4 page thread of people saying topical authority is just as important as backlinks.

Where are people ACTUALLY talking about blackhat tactics?
 
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anonuserp said:
People saying SEO is dead are lost souls.

Though i've just been browsing through the recent posts in the black hat section and everyones just talking about holistic SEO.

a full 4 page thread of people saying topical authority is just as important as backlinks.

Where are people ACTUALLY talking about blackhat tactics?
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Black hat SEO isn’t dead, it’s just not posted as openly as before. Anything that still works gets burned fast once too many people start talking about it in public, so most of the real stuff stays private, gets sold, or is shared only in smaller circles. Public threads usually drift more into “safe SEO” because people either don’t want to expose what still works or they’re just repeating what they read elsewhere.
 
Blackhat SEO is still relevant and as far as people are still using Google search, Blackhat SEO will still remain relevant.
 
anonuserp said:
People saying SEO is dead are lost souls.

Though i've just been browsing through the recent posts in the black hat section and everyones just talking about holistic SEO.

a full 4 page thread of people saying topical authority is just as important as backlinks.

Where are people ACTUALLY talking about blackhat tactics?
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Seo is not dead, bh seo is not dead.

Just many scammers about selling their little fake dr/da packages which will do sweet fkc all for seo.

There's plenty of knowledgeable people on here but they're drowned out by the noise of the above mentioned merchants.

And the people wanna listen to the easy solutions. Thus, they find eachother.

This is a place where people are peddling indexing services, which are completely and utterly dead, everyone who's been to a gsc perfectly well knows this.

Seo can always be bit of paid ads to get signals, on page, off page content, publishing and yes, parasite seo, totally works as bh method, just the window/time of opportunity is getting smaller.

Now, contribute and tell everyone who knows a little bit seo , why would they be taking time to post relevant things when the threads get avalanched by ai crap(this has improved recently) and everyone doing silent guerilla marketing for their useless fake authority metric backlinks with no relevance and zero traffic.

I have tried over and over to be a voice of reason and I am hard headed. But there need be more people, there's absolutely people on here who out expert me in general seo
 
BHW was traditionally about an abundance of ways to hack things online to gain traffic or make bank, some of which were not about SEO. Then after certain legal push back, it was editorially decided to have discussions concentrate on black hat SEO. More recently it seems the focus is on at least staying current with modern SEO concepts and terms ('making your pages 'sticky' is now called 'improving UX,' preferring 'buyer keywords' is recast as prioritizing 'search intent,' and so on).

Meanwhile, noting that certain black hat campaigns have a short term life before being detected, has become increasingly confused with not using them at all. The best black hat methods are all still findable by way of the search function, but most prefer to quietly use them to cycle customized campaigns. That's why it looks like the only folks left talking openly about SEO are those talking the fashionable AI jargoned 'topical authority' white hat babble. For those who want a more black hat template for doing things, there's still the sticky threads like the below to go by, to create your own custom version or mix:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/guide-tutorials-a-short-beginners-guide-to-blackhat-seo.1134018/
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/g...uide-to-blackhat-seo-part-2-3k-words.1424475/
 
People aren’t sharing real tactics publicly anymore, most of it moved private or paid.

What you see in forums now is just surface-level.

Even on Reddit, people say the fundamentals still work, just adapted.
 
Pbns are more like guest posting nowadays (which is technically BH), blasting is Omega dead, and obviously stuffing of any kind is 10x dead
CTR and AI shananigans are the last two strongholds of BH tactics
 
SirLouen said:
Pbns are more like guest posting nowadays (which is technically BH), blasting is Omega dead, and obviously stuffing of any kind is 10x dead
CTR and AI shananigans are the last two strongholds of BH tactics
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I still stuff, and I still blast. It's all in how you do it, how much you do, and for how long.
 
GeeLark AI said:
People aren’t sharing real tactics publicly anymore, most of it moved private or paid.

What you see in forums now is just surface-level.

Even on Reddit, people say the fundamentals still work, just adapted.
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Yes, but why would they share them when it cost them bloody loads of time and then people prefer to fall for non working, placebo indexing services, fake DA/DR packages with no traffic nor relevance and the 5 minute videos on youtube on how to rank a keyword in a week to top 1 without tools and all the BS, when its evident they use ALL the tools and have done weeks of preparative work before deploying.

The people have to go through their own little truth finding journey, mate, the only way to reason with someone clueless is if it costs them money. Time, not so much, but money is when it hits home. This is the only one consistent thing I have seen across niches which holds true.

Besides, whats good today, might not be good tomorrow, as many updates have show, no face, all ai youtube, briefly get traction and then later all demonetized. Its more important to be adaptive rather than relying on "must be on reddit somewhere", reddit is also full of BS content anyway.
 
InfinityPeace said:
I still stuff, and I still blast. It's all in how you do it, how much you do, and for how long.
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Blasting definitely isn’t dead lol.

Swear people just say stuff to feint knowledge nowadays
 
SEO will always remain relevant, whether it is White Hat or Black Hat.
 
anonuserp said:
People saying SEO is dead are lost souls.

Though i've just been browsing through the recent posts in the black hat section and everyones just talking about holistic SEO.

a full 4 page thread of people saying topical authority is just as important as backlinks.

Where are people ACTUALLY talking about blackhat tactics?
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I think black-hat SEO is still performing quite well. The proof is that backlink services and guest posting are still very active. Black-hat SEO will likely continue to exist for a long time.
 
Currently black hat SEO is not dead but, its harder now in comparison of before, more risk and constant tweaking needed.
 
Yeah i get what you mean, but most people keep real blackhat stuff lowkey now, not something they openly post in threads
plus with updates from Google getting stricter, a lot of folks just mix greyhat into “holistic SEO” talk instead of calling it blackhat outright.
Public forums are more “cleaned up” now, so people talk about topical authority and content, but behind the scenes many still mix in grey/blackhat stuff quietly.
 
As I see heavy blackhat methods still work but burn fast now. I feel it is more about controlled use now, pure aggresive stuff does not lasts like before.
 
the real tell is what's ranking right now in competitive niches. go check the backlink profiles of sites sitting at #1 for gambling, pharma, or payday loans. it ain't topical authority carrying those spots.
 
most of the real discussions moved away from public forums tbh. people still talk on places like BlackHatWorld, some private telegram groups, discord servers, and smaller invite-only communities, but the serious tactics usually stay behind paid circles or tight networks now. public methods get burned fast once too many people copy them. reddit has bits and pieces too, but a lot of it is outdated or surface-level. honestly the best learning still comes from testing things yourself on small projects instead of chasing “secret methods” people post publicly.
 
Black hat SEO is not dead. It is just changed alot .Most experienced people now mix aggressive tactics a with strong content, branding, and topical authority because pure spam methods don't last long anymore.
 
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