Is "boxphone" hardware worth it for Spotify farming?

As all you guys probably know, Spotify keeps amping up its security measures to detect bot streams, which used to be pretty easy to bypass a couple of years ago. I'm looking into buying one of those Vietnamese phone box things that has 20 iPhones set up with the program needed to mimic human behaviour and run bot streams to artist accounts without getting flagged. Keep in mind that these will be Turkish streams for Turkish Rappers (Most of whom already use bots), and Spotify doesn't seem to give a shit. Would you guys say it's worth it, and what kind of results can I expect from these endeavours? If I end up making a decent profit, I might plan on expanding the operation as well.

Spotify catches phone farm patterns fast, wipes the streams and risks your accounts. Short term bump, long term loss.

dr_shart said:

As all you guys probably know, Spotify keeps amping up its security measures to detect bot streams, which used to be pretty easy to bypass a couple of years ago. I'm looking into buying one of those Vietnamese phone box things that has 20 iPhones set up with the program needed to mimic human behaviour and run bot streams to artist accounts without getting flagged. Keep in mind that these will be Turkish streams for Turkish Rappers (Most of whom already use bots), and Spotify doesn't seem to give a shit. Would you guys say it's worth it, and what kind of results can I expect from these endeavours? If I end up making a decent profit, I might plan on expanding the operation as well.

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Even if it works briefly, the cost and upkeep usually outweigh any gains. One update from Spotify and the whole setup becomes useless.

Even when it works for a moment, the maintenance and constant breakages usually kill any profit.
One small update from Spotify and the whole farm turns into dead weight.

I'm late to the thread but I wouldn't go the hardware route for farming. I have a box myself and it was just a pain to get working so it's now sitting in my office doing nothing.

So is it totally pointless at this point even for the purpose of Spotify algorithm training to boost certain track's popularity score (and which similar artists is it being listened after), so it's recommended to other people more often?
What about the online solutions that allow you to use the box farm remotely?

Yeah, if you approach it smartly, it can definitely be worth it. Boxphone setups give you more control and a more “natural” environment compared to basic farms, which can help with stability and scaling. It’s not some magic solution you’ll still need to test, optimize and invest but once dialed in, it can produce consistent results.

The key is thinking long-term: build it step by step, don’t go all-in too fast, and focus on keeping things as clean and realistic as possible. If you manage that part well, it can turn into a solid setup rather than just another short-term experiment.

are 20 iPhones really necessary to get decent results or can you get away with fewer phones

hardware setups are always more stable than emulators for farming, but the upfront cost is the real killer. only worth it if you're scaling a proven method

The hardware alone isn't the moat you're paying for — it's more nuanced than that.
Physical iPhones give you genuine device fingerprints, which is meaningful for Spotify's device trust scoring. Emulators and Android VMs are easier to flag at the hardware level. That part is real.
But the detection models have moved beyond just "is this a real phone." The bigger signals now are behavioral: listen duration distribution, skip rate per session, playlist variety, time-of-day clustering across a pool of accounts. If 20 phones all start streaming at 9:00 AM and run for 8 hours with identical session lengths, the hardware won't save you.
The IP side is what most people underestimate. Each device needs a clean residential from the right geography matching the account's registration location. Mobile proxies — carrier-grade, rotating — work better than datacenter or ISP proxies for Spotify specifically because they mimic real mobile data traffic patterns.
ROI on boxphone setups is real but requires ongoing maintenance: phones die, accounts get flagged, proxy costs add up. Seen people run profitable setups for 6-12 months before needing to restructure. The guys who stay long-term spend more time tuning the behavioral layer than worrying about the hardware.
Worth it or not depends heavily on your scale and whether you're managing it yourself vs. outsourcing.