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What about the CPC's ?
Its $5000/day even after that ? (i hope you take cost into account)
Its $5000/day even after that ? (i hope you take cost into account)
[Tutorial] Make $5,000 a day - Cloak Tech Call on Google Display Network
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Xtreme Ads
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There are keywords on Google with $0.01-$0.05 CPC - You need to put some time into keyword research.
Yes, you can easily make 3x-5x of the amount invested into Ads.
That's what media buying is all about.
Still requires efforts and investment - not easy money per say.
David2772
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As far as running clean pages for awhile before going to cloaking: here's an idea I picked up awhile back, and perhaps Xtreme Ads can comment..
How about we switch to cloakers when the people in the office of the ad networks are gone? So, 8pm-6am should be a safe time to run the cloacker.
Otherwise, Xtreme Ads, do you have any wisdom or further advice to give on this part?
How about we switch to cloakers when the people in the office of the ad networks are gone? So, 8pm-6am should be a safe time to run the cloacker.
Otherwise, Xtreme Ads, do you have any wisdom or further advice to give on this part?
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Ad review process is mostly an outsourced business process - so they are checking it all time.
But some cloakers work really very well - you need to test some popular ones you'll find being discussed on BHW before you get the ones which makes your account last the longest!
As for running legit ads for sometime, it helps to debug the account issues - otherwise you'll presume that you got banned because of cloaking. While there are many other reasons you can be banned for.
According to this screenshot, your CPC should be at least $0.25 to make a decent ROI (100%), which is very unlikely in GDN (in pop networks is not).
Also, getting 3% conversion rate on tech sup? What kind of shitty lander do you have?
Plus, in your original post, you said that the pay per call is $8, while your screenshot shows $15...
Most likely fake screenshot, or do you care to elaborate?
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Cloaker also drops lots of clicks.
Yes, I am using compliant landers (shitty in your words) which is bound to have lower CR than your "aggressive" BSOD ones.
$0.25 CPC is very likely on GDN there are tons of cheap placements
I nowhere said I am getting paid $8 per call - I had said you'll get paid $4-$8 per call by an "affiliate network" - I do not work with an "affiliate network", I used to work with one where I got paid $8.5 max, now I work direct.
I've revenue share deal with a direct center, yes I get paid much higher - but it's not possible for newbies to have such volume and consistency of traffic.
If I use BSOD and other aggressive landers and I'll have a crazy high conversion rate.
But yea, you'll get busted if you use kind of landers for long on high volumes.
More Aggressive your landers are = MORE RISK
I like to play it safe. It the decision which you've to make.
In short, get your facts right before speculating anything.
If you are cloaking, why get compliant landers?
If you have a compliant lander, why would you risk it with cloaking it?
How many adwords accs have you burned so far?
My "speculation" is that you have an acc farm, which is the most critical thing in tech support.
and that's why you are comfortable with sharing half of the method in a public forum.
If you have a compliant lander, why would you risk it with cloaking it?
How many adwords accs have you burned so far?
My "speculation" is that you have an acc farm, which is the most critical thing in tech support.
and that's why you are comfortable with sharing half of the method in a public forum.
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Cmon mate?
There is a difference between "Blackhat" and "Illegal".
Compliant landers must be used to make your business sustainable.
Do you really want to get busted for use of those BSOD - SCARY landers?
I am better than that. People have been "jailed" and "sued" for those deceptive landing page - I use 100% compliant landers.
The thing is even my compliant landers are not acceptable to the ad network - That's why I cloak, it's blackhat and gaming the system but it ain't illegal.
You sound experienced with this game.
You guessed it right, I farm accounts.
Since account keep going down but we also make money - so we've enough incentive to continue.
Other folks can use their friends account and friends of friends account and still the make money.
They don't really need a lot of accounts, unless they want to make millions!
At least, I've shared something - there are folks who have not even shared 1 step of their methods and complaining that I've not shared enough.
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sanj108
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BSOD = Blue Screen Of Death?
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Yes, exactly.
Some people mimic the blue screen of death using a landing page and trap gullible visitors - It generates crazy conversion rate but it is also very "aggressive" and "scammy" way to promote such offer, I do not recommend it at all.
But there are some practitioners of dark arts who promote such landing pages and make lots of money, with very high ROI.
You can use Google search to dig deeper into this.
sanj108
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That's quite average rate. May we know what's the EPC you're getting at the lowest case or average?
David2772
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You did have that one account with 100k spend - I'm assuming you've made 300k+ on it for a profit of 200k, and that's definitely real money.
But I'm also thinking that upon starting out with this, a newbie would be more likely to inadvertently do something silly and get banned, hence I'd imagine that having a handful of accounts in the beginning is a good move for a beginner.
Can you offer some advice on farming accounts? I saw you posted this advice in another thread:
"It will not work because:
1. You are not using a Virtual Machine
2. You are using a VPN (abused IP addresses by thousands of blackhatters)
You need fresh virgin IPs, get 3g/4g data cards and multiple virtual machines, you need new credit card/debit card per account. Then only it will work."
So - for each account we'll need a separate instance of a VM, a separate mi-fi dongle, and separate credit card. How about for actual account creation?
Is it hypothetically fine to setup domain, cloaker, adwords campaign, and upon approval from adwords, jump right into running $50-100 spend/day of cloaked TS offers? Or is warming up the account first running non-cloaked campaigns a good idea..
Thanks very much for all of your help. I think the good news for me (and any others actually taking this seriously), is that only 1% of people reading this will actually come up with the 1-2k startup costs and tinker with this until it's working.
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1. Newbies can make good money if they read all my suggestions that I've posted on this forum so far.
Yes, that kind of spend you can only get when you've some experience and expertise under your belt.
But it's not something unachievable. Let's say even if you manage to spend $20K on that account, still, it's good money for most newbies who are starting out. Reinvesting is key in building massive cash flow.
It takes time and it's not quick money per say.
2. Newbies should start by using their own account as any real advertiser will do!
There are lots of people who are selling ad accounts on this forum. You can discuss with them how they make accounts or just buy their account since you can use them to make a lot more money.
3. You'll need to warm up an account for some time.
4. It's media buying, so it still needs investment. I had only started with $200 in this game. (group buy all tools and share it while you are a newbie)
You can create a group of motivated people who are willing to pool and share resources - It will drastically bring down the startup cost.
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Hello @Xtreme Ads ,
I am using similar method but with other Ads Network , We are getting uniques , click on our money page but not even a single call is generated.
Can you help me in that.
I am using similar method but with other Ads Network , We are getting uniques , click on our money page but not even a single call is generated.
Can you help me in that.
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That network is possibly selling you bot traffic.
Try quality networks like RevContent, Content Ad, Google GDN, AdWords - then only you will find conversions!
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@Xtreme Ads We are using Clickmeter for testing traffic and according to that we are getting good number of quality traffic.
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