T2 links - GSA is dead

[Deleted member 731332]

It's not the software. It doesnt matter what software you use. if google has an algo that targets t2 then you have to change something.

I also have a website that got hammered. I built my t1 with autofill magic. all the content on t1 was ORIGINAL not spun not scraped nothing. I linked to my money site with an unoptimized anchor. I built links to the main domain and everything was cool. Then I built links to the page where my money link was using a bunch of relevant money keywords. 2 days later my site starts falling like a ton of bricks down the serps.

Now, I am not jumping to conclusions. Was it the anchor text? or was it the new indexer service i was trying out? is my home page being hit for over optimization? Theres a lot of things it could be not just the over optimized t2 links blasted too fast.

Its just time to trouble shoot.

 

[t0mmy]

Of course, I am wondering is this software good for building T2 links or not. I am not saying it is dead.

How much T2 links should I aim at?

I have only around 100 targets (article) on T2. If I turn on profiles (web 2.0 profiles) then I can get around 1000 links.

I scraped everything imaginable. Probably around 200 000 targets with 1200 custom footprints and I even bought some links lists that claim to have 50 000 verified links but in reality have less than 100 real links.

Ah misread, very small lists you have in the grand scheme of things, "I scraped everything imaginable" I doubt that very much bro,.. scrape more, get a dedi and have it scraping 24/7 and who says those are the only T2 links you can use? articles and profiles.. fire everything at those T1s the more juice the better imo. But yeah dedi or two constantly scraping would be my advice for your list problem.. this is how it's done on a large scale - forget about buying lists too they will usually be already spammed to death.

A lot of people are saying there is some algo flag on T2, this is not the case not from my experience anyway.. Seeing amazing results sending pure spam to high quality T1s and even sending pure spam to High PR sape links giving them a nice power push is working a treat, my conclusion on this is completely different than what I'm reading here recently...

 

[sudorank]

This must be a troll surely? Dude's been a member for like 4 years with 1000,00000,0000 posts?

How can you think that GSA doesn't work and that 5 days is enough time to wait for a result with that kinda experience backing you up?

Unless OP is having a bad day, we all have those... Wake up tomorrow and get back on that saddle!

 

[ThopHayt]

This is interesting. I too feel that the bar for quality on T2/3 has been raised. What used to fly for T1 quality must now be used as T2, thus making linkbuilding harder to do and more expensive.

i posted few weeks ago about tier 2 links.the last g00gle update i think has focused on that.i had done some senuke campaigns to a site of mine and after 3-4 senuke campaign my site start ranking page 1-2 and page #3.but i was looking for better results and i start building tier 2-3 links to my senuke links and guess what,my site got fucked.i said WTF is not first site i got fucked,so i keep building tier 2-3 links to other sites also and i got them fucked too.i am testing now on another website to do tier 2 same quality as tier 1 links ,all with senuke.gsa just can't build quality links,it can just build quantity

 

[moonlighsunligh]

This must be a troll surely? Dude's been a member for like 4 years with 1000,00000,0000 posts?

How can you think that GSA doesn't work and that 5 days is enough time to wait for a result with that kinda experience backing you up?

Unless OP is having a bad day, we all have those... Wake up tomorrow and get back on that saddle!

I am not sure what a troll is. I have bought 10 domains recently and started an adsense journey to earn at least something with adsense.

Of course I earn using other methods, but I want to learn how to rank my own sites by building backlinks.

 

[affordablelinkbuild]

Tell us how many of them get indexed
I rank with GSA exclusively many projects, the most important thing is to have a good indexer and good list of target sites.

I made around 10 T1 links on web 2.0 and then added around 100 T2 PR1+ links using GSA (articles only) and on top of that i added around 1000 GSA t3( article only) and 10 000 blog comments to T3. I expected for my rankings to improve since it is an easy keyword but nothing happened, i even lost rankings of most my T1 sites (web 2.0). So my conclusion is that GSA links doesn't work.

Is there any better software for T2 links that can build around link from around 100 different sites and is it safe to use GSA for making T3 links?

I do T1 manually using unique articles, but i cannot build the T2 links manually since it would take too much time.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Tell us how many of them get indexed
I rank with GSA exclusively many projects, the most important thing is to have a good indexer and good list of target sites.

Will count shortly but the scrapebox blast should index the most of them.

 

[affordablelinkbuild]

I can only agree with that, it`s just a tool if you are saying GSA SER is dead we can also say link building is dead but it isn`t. A week is nothing, keep build new backlinks and make them indexed by good indexing service (all tiers) and then you will see the difference.

LOL GSA dead? yeah sure it is OP....

How can it be dead OP? It's simply a tool for building links on a number of platforms lol you would be better saying all links from all those platforms are dead in that case, but again not true, actually GSA is a beast of a software if you know how to use it right.. From a quick glance at your campaign I can see you have not enough T2 links imo, crank that baby up a notch or ten!

 

[affordablelinkbuild]

Dont use scarpebox for indexing it will put all your 1st tier backlinks at huge risk, purchase professional indexing service (not crawling but indexing), go to gsa ser forum and pick the one you like, it`s a lot more effective and safer than trying to index them with scrapebox (its too risky in my opinion)

Will count shortly but the scrapebox blast should index the most of them.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Ah misread, very small lists you have in the grand scheme of things, "I scraped everything imaginable" I doubt that very much bro,.. scrape more, get a dedi and have it scraping 24/7 and who says those are the only T2 links you can use? articles and profiles.. fire everything at those T1s the more juice the better imo. But yeah dedi or two constantly scraping would be my advice for your list problem.. this is how it's done on a large scale - forget about buying lists too they will usually be already spammed to death.

A lot of people are saying there is some algo flag on T2, this is not the case not from my experience anyway.. Seeing amazing results sending pure spam to high quality T1s and even sending pure spam to High PR sape links giving them a nice power push is working a treat, my conclusion on this is completely different than what I'm reading here recently...

Tried to pm you to explain what kind of footprints do I use but your PM box is full.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Dont use scarpebox for indexing, purchase professional indexing service, go to gsa ser forum and pick the one you like, it`s a lot more effective and safer than trying to index them with scrapebox (its too risky in my opinion)

Which one?

Risky, even on T4?

 

[Tangy]

I made around 10 T1 links on web 2.0 and then added around 100 T2 PR1+ links using GSA (articles only) and on top of that i added around 1000 GSA t3( article only) and 10 000 blog comments to T3. I expected for my rankings to improve since it is an easy keyword but nothing happened, i even lost rankings of most my T1 sites (web 2.0). So my conclusion is that GSA links doesn't work.

Is there any better software for T2 links that can build around link from around 100 different sites and is it safe to use GSA for making T3 links?

I do T1 manually using unique articles, but i cannot build the T2 links manually since it would take too much time.

You're using GSA SER incorrectly. So many questions are unanswered, but here are some things to think about:

1) What is the quality of your T1 Web 2.0s? Who wrote the content? How much content is there? Are they aged or new?

2) What is the link velocity of the links you built to those T1 via your T2?

3) You used nothing but junk blog comments to your T3 - why? That quantity isn't going to do much of anything... 10,000 T3 to 1,000 T2 is about ten comments each. That will do absolutely nothing.

There is no better software for link building automation if you're building links in volume. GSA SER is the best. However it's like being handed a chainsaw, you need to know how to use it or you'll end up cutting off your own leg. I suggest you spend some time reading about tiered link building here on BHW and looking at tiering diagrams.

i posted few weeks ago about tier 2 links.the last g00gle update i think has focused on that.i had done some senuke campaigns to a site of mine and after 3-4 senuke campaign my site start ranking page 1-2 and page #3.but i was looking for better results and i start building tier 2-3 links to my senuke links and guess what,my site got fucked.i said WTF is not first site i got fucked,so i keep building tier 2-3 links to other sites also and i got them fucked too.i am testing now on another website to do tier 2 same quality as tier 1 links ,all with senuke.gsa just can't build quality links,it can just build quantity

GSA can absolutely build quality links. The settings allow you to control everything - how many OBLs a page has, etc. You need to ensure you have it set up correct and aren't just using it as a spam cannon.

Of course, I am wondering is this software good for building T2 links or not.

I am not saying it is dead.

How much T2 links should I aim at?

I have only around 100 targets (article) on T2. If I turn on profiles (web 2.0 profiles) then I can get around 1000 links.

I scraped everything imaginable. Probably around 200 000 targets with 1200 custom footprints and I even bought some links lists that claim to have 50 000 verified links but in reality have less than 100 real links.

"Everything imaginable" - that's ridiculous. We process about 30,000,000 URLs a week to build our verified sitelists for our BST service and we come across brand new targets every minute of every day. I'm not sure who you are buying your lists from but either you're getting screwed or you're setting up SER incorrectly.

I am not sure what a troll is. I have bought 10 domains recently and started an adsense journey to earn at least something with adsense.

Of course I earn using other methods, but I want to learn how to rank my own sites by building backlinks.

Why are you trying to rank sites with AdSense on them? You're never going to make enough money to pay for your time and recover the cost of getting those websites ranked. SEO isn't inexpensive anymore - it costs real money to get sites ranked in any keyword if you plan on having them stay there. SAPE links, PBNs, guest blog posts, press releases, GSA SER links, etc. Ranking a webpage with AdSense on it is a true waste of your time.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

Tell us how many of them get indexed
I rank with GSA exclusively many projects, the most important thing is to have a good indexer and good list of target sites.

Just 12 our of the 100. This is likely the problem. Even the scrapebox blast didn't help much (at T4) since the T3 links 1000 of them are not indexed well. I am going to do a pligg blast to T1 and this should index them better.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

You're using GSA SER incorrectly. So many questions are unanswered, but here are some things to think about:

1) What is the quality of your T1 Web 2.0s? Who wrote the content? How much content is there? Are they aged or new?

2) What is the link velocity of the links you built to those T1 via your T2?

3) You used nothing but junk blog comments to your T3 - why? That quantity isn't going to do much of anything... 10,000 T3 to 1,000 T2 is about ten comments each. That will do absolutely nothing.

There is no better software for link building automation if you're building links in volume. GSA SER is the best. However it's like being handed a chainsaw, you need to know how to use it or you'll end up cutting off your own leg. I suggest you spend some time reading about tiered link building here on BHW and looking at tiering diagrams.

Thanks for the detailed answer. 400 to 500 words written by me ( I use DNS so I can write really fast).
I actually built 200 links to them in 2-3 days and then 2000 link to these 200 and 20K blog comments.
I used the comments just for indexing, because this is the easiest kind of link to make. Should I build more?

I did read many tutorials from here do you have a specific recommendation?

GSA can absolutely build quality links. The settings allow you to control everything - how many OBLs a page has, etc. You need to ensure you have it set up correct and aren't just using it as a spam cannon.

I use just articles, not even profiles and I think that OBL doesn't matter there. But I do use all the filters as recommended. Used PR>1 setting for some but it turned out there are not enough targets with such a PR.

"Everything imaginable" - that's ridiculous. We process about 30,000,000 URLs a week to build our verified sitelists for our BST service and we come across brand new targets every minute of every day. I'm not sure who you are buying your lists from but either you're getting screwed or you're setting up SER incorrectly.

I am sending you a pm to clarify.

Why are you trying to rank sites with AdSense on them? You're never going to make enough money to pay for your time and recover the cost of getting those websites ranked. SEO isn't inexpensive anymore - it costs real money to get sites ranked in any keyword if you plan on having them stay there. SAPE links, PBNs, guest blog posts, press releases, GSA SER links, etc. Ranking a webpage with AdSense on it is a true waste of your time.

I need to start with something and I have a bunch of easy to rank keyword that do not have other ways to rank. I have found some expired domains and i am planning to make a PBN on them for these 10 sites as this isn't a s expensive if I could earn $500 from these sites per month.

 

[SerpEvil]

GSA can absolutely build quality links. The settings allow you to control everything - how many OBLs a page has, etc. You need to ensure you have it set up correct and aren't just using it as a spam cannon.

yeah,bla bla bla BS ,good luck building quality links with GSA,i use senuke,FCS etc for that

 

[royserpa]

5 days is way too fast a link velocity for constructing sites and a backlink network. If Google sees sudden links added for a site or property and it doesn't match the actual visitor traffic or index history (as in 50 new links, but only 20 actual visitors, or dozens of links appearing for a page that isn't even indexed), their "that's artificial" alarm may have been triggered. So try a slower link growth path.

Interesting point BUT Google only has access to organic traffic (the traffic they generate). With that being said, I really cant think of a way for Google to know a specific page gets X visitors in a specific time as you are totally forgetting about people that type your url, come from backlinjs, come from social media and so on.

It doesnt mean that a site that gets 10 visitors a day from google doesnt have more visitors from other sources and therefore generating backlinks.

IMHO I think the thought process is kinda wrong.

 

[moonlighsunligh]

yeah,bla bla bla BS ,good luck building quality links with GSA,i use senuke,FCS etc for that

Do you use this for T2 as well? This could be a very good idea. I use ZP for T1 (semiautomatic) but there are probably around 10 sites i could totally automate or buy zenblog which support like 60+ web 2.0 sites.

 

[sudorank]

I am not sure what a troll is. I have bought 10 domains recently and started an adsense journey to earn at least something with adsense.

Of course I earn using other methods, but I want to learn how to rank my own sites by building backlinks.

Ah it's okay. I've seen you about on the forum and you seem to know your stuff pretty good I was starting to wonder if your account had been taken over by a newbie or something ha ha!

Anyway, back to the problem. The short answer to your problem IMHO is have patience, give it a week or two and see how your SERPS pan out.

If it's still tanked then it's time to re-visit your strategy and get to tweaking.

GSA is definitely not dead, believe me, it's one of the best tools out there for reasonably cheap ranking power.

In the meantime, have you looked up Matthew Woodwards video tuts on tiered link building? For anyone fairly new to GSA it's a must watch guide IMHO.

 

[SerpEvil]

Do you use this for T2 as well? This could be a very good idea. I use ZP for T1 (semiautomatic) but there are probably around 10 sites i could totally automate or buy zenblog which support like 60+ web 2.0 sites.

i use them for tier 1 .i stopped building tier 2 for about 2 months.only tier 1

 

[seohoneypot]

GSA still works, I have been using this tool to index my links and It is doing pretty good job. You just need a proper link list to submit.