Illuminati - what do you think?
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LeanLow
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For those who believe or don't believe, i have read a book written by a man in time when Bavarian Illuminati was active, don't be bias on either side,i have read a lot of books, but after reading this one, i can tell you one thing, the system that the man described is pure genius. "Code of Illuminati" by Abbe Barreul . I don't know if they still exist, but i can't imagine that the system as perfect as that could vanish...
Most theories on youtube are bullshit, if you want to find real stuff read books like the one i mentioned there are other books too written in time when Bavarian Illuminati was active, you can learn new thinking patterns by reading the book i mentioned.
Most theories on youtube are bullshit, if you want to find real stuff read books like the one i mentioned there are other books too written in time when Bavarian Illuminati was active, you can learn new thinking patterns by reading the book i mentioned.
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Wilson Grant Fisk
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I like to read about these types of groups from time to time and it can be entertaining.
My question is, why don't they start a little smaller and get the trains and buses to run on time?
Forgive me, it is Saturday night and I have been appreciating a good bottle of Scotch.
My question is, why don't they start a little smaller and get the trains and buses to run on time?
Forgive me, it is Saturday night and I have been appreciating a good bottle of Scotch.
HomensdaLuta
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This guy is right! There is no such thing like population control.. and governments don't conspire against their own people.. the nazi scientists were never brought into the USA ... false flags are just conspiracies, there are no powerful families that hold much of the world wealth... there were really weapons of mass destruction in Iraq... the Ajax operation in Iran was in the interest of the Iranian people... the war on drugs is really working.. the cia never intervened in Angola... The golf of Tonkin incident was just an accident...the FBI didn't knew about the world trade center 1993 bombing...the world is full of joy and happiness... stop living in fantasy land and go back to work.
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bananaman5000
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population control happens on its own as countries develop. birth rates will fall naturally. this is a very good thing in the long run in my opinion. i don't think any illuminati needs kill people off, distributing free condoms would be far cheaper and more effective.
Clifton Allen Says
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How do we monitize this Illuminati niche? 
OP do you have affiliate links or a JV or sales page? lol j/k
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on a much more serious note, yes it does exist, and the closest that the media have ever got close to finding our more about it,
was when Frank Sinatra (yes good old blue eyes) let it slip on a set at one of his old movies (I forget the name but it was about 1950's)
and people then did not know what it meant, until it was referenced in the late 80's by an undercover news reporter, who then died in
"mysterious circumstances" the next day!!
In the meantime, since FBI and CIA read these threads, its best forgotten about and not discussed anymore!!!
Just live your life and enjoy the gift of the present.
OP do you have affiliate links or a JV or sales page? lol j/k---------->>>>>>>>>>>
on a much more serious note, yes it does exist, and the closest that the media have ever got close to finding our more about it,
was when Frank Sinatra (yes good old blue eyes) let it slip on a set at one of his old movies (I forget the name but it was about 1950's)
and people then did not know what it meant, until it was referenced in the late 80's by an undercover news reporter, who then died in
"mysterious circumstances" the next day!!
In the meantime, since FBI and CIA read these threads, its best forgotten about and not discussed anymore!!!
Just live your life and enjoy the gift of the present.
GreenGoblin
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unless there getting me some money i dont give a damn really
AnthonyCorleone
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NATO owner = Hitler Doughtier
Illuminati = Rothschild & Sons = IMF = Central Bank = owning world
Illuminati involved in everyday of your life some people see it and some people don't
Illuminati = Rothschild & Sons = IMF = Central Bank = owning world
Illuminati involved in everyday of your life some people see it and some people don't
THUNDERELVI
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Hello Sheepee !!! Good to see we still have people like you in this fucked up world, that is why world domination is so easy for the governments or the illuminati or whoever is.
@OP: Please PM me all the information you have, there are some times which I play games when I have some spare time lol, but reading is always better.
HomensdaLuta
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can you refute any of my arguments smart boy ? all the things i said are historic facts lol.. not my fault you don't know them.
HomensdaLuta
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It was sarcastic but glad to know you didn't get it xD If you knew more about the historical facts and less about the conspiracy side of things you would understand that it was meant as sarcasm.
Firstly learn the definition of the word "facts". Secondly I am just glad I do not live your life, life must be hard to live in that stoner reality.
Clifton Allen Says
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Hey boys and girls..... enough of the hating etc.... no need for name calling etc.....
lets keep it "real"!!
lets keep it "real"!!
No, it's all bullshit. If there was no money in, people wouldn't talk about it.
And why would they want to go that far to enslave us? We are well controlled by our governments right now and media. No need to go to the extremes these bullshit artists want us to believe.
And why would they want to go that far to enslave us? We are well controlled by our governments right now and media. No need to go to the extremes these bullshit artists want us to believe.
HomensdaLuta
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Hm... so i said anything that isn't true? Please explain.. Why do you keep saying i'm a stoner? I never experimented any kind of drugs.. but ok.
My references to:
Gulf of Tonkin Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
Operation Ajax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
(also related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair)
1993 World Trade Center bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
The Nazi scientists (Operation paperclip) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
CIA Activities in Angola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Angola
Government conspiring against their own citizens (Operation Northwoods) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
If i said something that isn't true please explain instead of attacking me, thanks.
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umerjutt00
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Yeah it is for real. I also read about the thing i.e. selling your soul to satan for fame/monies.
madoctopus
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There's hard data and historical data and there's theories from not very smart conspiracy theorists who think behind everything there's a conspiracy theory. Illuminati is a word many idiots use to describe the Boogie Man/NWO/Evil under one term.
If you look at historical data you actually find interesting things, interesting organizations and connections. But these facts won't give you complete answers or an absolute truth. That's why many of these conspiracy theorists prefer to just say "Illuminati is controlling us and is evil." without having a fucking clue what they're talking about or who they're talking about.
If you want hard facts, just go and research, including in the resources of the particular organizations - things they state themselves. Is interesting. You won't have an "oh dang, the Illuminati are evil and are destroying us" moment, but is quite educational.
Read on Bilderberg, Club of Rome, Trilateral, Templer Knights, The Knights of Malta/Order of Malta, Jesuit Order, Francmasonery, The Vatican, etc - look who are the members, in what positions they are in various institutions, where they appear during various events, their positions on various issues, etc. I didn't bother much with this, I'm not a fan of this stuff and I have better use for my time. But if you go and read actual facts for 1-2 days you find enough interesting things to make your time worthwhile. That's all I did. OF course, same information might make one person scream conspiracy and another person just see a pattern that he can put to use at a smaller scale in his life.
I mean just take the Vatican. An amazingly powerful "society" smaller than a city, within the city of an actual state (Italy). Now tell me there's no such thing as people with amazing power, having great saying in decisions that affect the entire human civilization. Happily I am not one of those people who think X or Y is just pure good or pure evil. I think Vatican, X and Y did both great things as well as horrible things. So does that make them good or evil? How do you decide this without being the top most person within that organization and seeing the big picture and understanding it best.
There are days when I'm a complete asshole with people around me and days when I'm all milk and honey. If I can't demand from myself to be milk and honey every second with every person, no matter how nice or horrible he or she is, how could I demand that from somebody who is at entirely different level and size and made from multiple persons?
Bad shit happening - does that mean that every secret or not so mainstream society out there is evil? That's a rather long shot isn't it? Yes, they have power and influence. That's obvious. Another thing that is obvious is powerful people, just like weak people, congregate and cooperate to meet their common goals. So if you have X, Y and Z in positions of power having a highly similar agenda, obviously they will work together. Google+Yahoo+Bing all have similar goals and have an interest/agenda to expand the reach of internet worldwide because it means more money. Orthodox+Catholic+Islamic+Budhist churches all have a goal in people believing in God and being nice with each other so they can work together in that direction even though the don't agree on other things. Rockefellers+whoever also have some goals and plans. And so on. Finally, if I have a site about HDTVs and you have a site about Blu-Ray players, we can cooperate and grow together because we have a common interest. So would that make us a secret society? I mean we don't go and yell out loud our cooperative marketing strategies, so does that make us a secret society?
Another aspect is blame. People like to blame. They blame the government, the church, their brother, their mother, their cat and their ISP. They really love it. So whenever a person doesn't get what he wants in an easy way, is much easier to blame somebody else than figure out what he has to do to get there. You can't be 100 Kg and at the same time be a ballerina. That's what people don't get. Pretty much everything you want in life produces an incompatibility with other things. That translates into sacrifice. Some people make that sacrifice to become what they want, some people don't and blame the others.
Look at the SEO world. Some people rank in SERPs and make big money, most don't. So those who don't rank go and cry about Google being evil and X and Y being allowed to do some bad shit SEO wise because they're big brands. Does it matter? Those people understood things you didn't and they went and made certain sacrifices and got out of their comfort zone. If you have $100/mo budget and somebody else has $1mil/mo budget for SEO, complaining about not being able to win against them is just retarded. What you're doing is complain instead of understanding that the world and everything functions by certain rules and you're just not using the laws of the universe to your advantage and instead are simply complaining the universe isn't kissing your ass.
I could understand and respect (not necessarily accept) the opinion of somebody I somehow magically know he's not lying about what he's telling me, somebody who researched various secret organizations for years and he tells me in a compacted version his conclusions. I can respect that person because he actually went and spent part of his life researching and he's taking the time to share with me his findings. I can not respect somebody who watches some retarded conspiracy theory videos on YouTube and screams Illuminaty, NWO and conspiracy theory about everything and complains about everything and blames everybody. I just can't.
At the end of the day, you can allow yourself to be consumed by partial information and disinformation, or not give a fuck and go do whatever you like to do. You're going to live for under 100 years and then die. Nothing and nobody is stopping you from having a beautiful life. I don't care how powerful these organizations are, they won't stop you from becoming a pilot if you love flying or from traveling the world if you love seeig places and meeting people, or from making lots of money if you like sports cars and yachts. There's potential for good and potential for evil in every person, you and me included. You can not directly turn a switch and make somebody else good or evil and even if you could you shouldn't because is not your business. What you can is work on yourself so you evolve in the direction you want. And if you feed the good or evil potential in yourself enough, at some point you will influence those around you because it is contagious.
Ghandi put it best - "You must e the change you wish to see in the world".
If you look at historical data you actually find interesting things, interesting organizations and connections. But these facts won't give you complete answers or an absolute truth. That's why many of these conspiracy theorists prefer to just say "Illuminati is controlling us and is evil." without having a fucking clue what they're talking about or who they're talking about.
If you want hard facts, just go and research, including in the resources of the particular organizations - things they state themselves. Is interesting. You won't have an "oh dang, the Illuminati are evil and are destroying us" moment, but is quite educational.
Read on Bilderberg, Club of Rome, Trilateral, Templer Knights, The Knights of Malta/Order of Malta, Jesuit Order, Francmasonery, The Vatican, etc - look who are the members, in what positions they are in various institutions, where they appear during various events, their positions on various issues, etc. I didn't bother much with this, I'm not a fan of this stuff and I have better use for my time. But if you go and read actual facts for 1-2 days you find enough interesting things to make your time worthwhile. That's all I did. OF course, same information might make one person scream conspiracy and another person just see a pattern that he can put to use at a smaller scale in his life.
I mean just take the Vatican. An amazingly powerful "society" smaller than a city, within the city of an actual state (Italy). Now tell me there's no such thing as people with amazing power, having great saying in decisions that affect the entire human civilization. Happily I am not one of those people who think X or Y is just pure good or pure evil. I think Vatican, X and Y did both great things as well as horrible things. So does that make them good or evil? How do you decide this without being the top most person within that organization and seeing the big picture and understanding it best.
There are days when I'm a complete asshole with people around me and days when I'm all milk and honey. If I can't demand from myself to be milk and honey every second with every person, no matter how nice or horrible he or she is, how could I demand that from somebody who is at entirely different level and size and made from multiple persons?
Bad shit happening - does that mean that every secret or not so mainstream society out there is evil? That's a rather long shot isn't it? Yes, they have power and influence. That's obvious. Another thing that is obvious is powerful people, just like weak people, congregate and cooperate to meet their common goals. So if you have X, Y and Z in positions of power having a highly similar agenda, obviously they will work together. Google+Yahoo+Bing all have similar goals and have an interest/agenda to expand the reach of internet worldwide because it means more money. Orthodox+Catholic+Islamic+Budhist churches all have a goal in people believing in God and being nice with each other so they can work together in that direction even though the don't agree on other things. Rockefellers+whoever also have some goals and plans. And so on. Finally, if I have a site about HDTVs and you have a site about Blu-Ray players, we can cooperate and grow together because we have a common interest. So would that make us a secret society? I mean we don't go and yell out loud our cooperative marketing strategies, so does that make us a secret society?
Another aspect is blame. People like to blame. They blame the government, the church, their brother, their mother, their cat and their ISP. They really love it. So whenever a person doesn't get what he wants in an easy way, is much easier to blame somebody else than figure out what he has to do to get there. You can't be 100 Kg and at the same time be a ballerina. That's what people don't get. Pretty much everything you want in life produces an incompatibility with other things. That translates into sacrifice. Some people make that sacrifice to become what they want, some people don't and blame the others.
Look at the SEO world. Some people rank in SERPs and make big money, most don't. So those who don't rank go and cry about Google being evil and X and Y being allowed to do some bad shit SEO wise because they're big brands. Does it matter? Those people understood things you didn't and they went and made certain sacrifices and got out of their comfort zone. If you have $100/mo budget and somebody else has $1mil/mo budget for SEO, complaining about not being able to win against them is just retarded. What you're doing is complain instead of understanding that the world and everything functions by certain rules and you're just not using the laws of the universe to your advantage and instead are simply complaining the universe isn't kissing your ass.
I could understand and respect (not necessarily accept) the opinion of somebody I somehow magically know he's not lying about what he's telling me, somebody who researched various secret organizations for years and he tells me in a compacted version his conclusions. I can respect that person because he actually went and spent part of his life researching and he's taking the time to share with me his findings. I can not respect somebody who watches some retarded conspiracy theory videos on YouTube and screams Illuminaty, NWO and conspiracy theory about everything and complains about everything and blames everybody. I just can't.
At the end of the day, you can allow yourself to be consumed by partial information and disinformation, or not give a fuck and go do whatever you like to do. You're going to live for under 100 years and then die. Nothing and nobody is stopping you from having a beautiful life. I don't care how powerful these organizations are, they won't stop you from becoming a pilot if you love flying or from traveling the world if you love seeig places and meeting people, or from making lots of money if you like sports cars and yachts. There's potential for good and potential for evil in every person, you and me included. You can not directly turn a switch and make somebody else good or evil and even if you could you shouldn't because is not your business. What you can is work on yourself so you evolve in the direction you want. And if you feed the good or evil potential in yourself enough, at some point you will influence those around you because it is contagious.
Ghandi put it best - "You must e the change you wish to see in the world".
HomensdaLuta
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madoctopus i understand your point of view and i basically think the same. There are people that can't seem to see the big picture and scream conspiracy at everything and others that refuse not to see. I like to be open minded and i know that i'm wrong about many things but i try to base my reasoning in history and facts. There are many interesting things to learn and discover that can help understand better the world we live in. The geopolitical thinking of many countries and their agendas for the future. Its always good to know and always be open to learn more.
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Looks like some folks have been researching conspiracies after that 9/11 thread eh!
If you make enough money in IM, the Illuminati might invite you to join them - then you can tell us what it's all about!
If you make enough money in IM, the Illuminati might invite you to join them
- then you can tell us what it's all about!