Google update just now? 10/4?

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Been through this once...here we go again. Most of my sites tanked down 1-5 pages depending on the severity of spammy blog network links and Web 2.0. Sites without that much linking/only linked from my own 40 site blog network holding up fairly decently with a slight decrease in rankings.

Cutts and team just have to be laughing about this right now over a few beers.
 
What can you do to fix the problem? Assume you don't have a brand domain. Wait 3 days and see if there are corrections to the update. If no, enable webmaster tools and tell Google to remove your domain from the index. Then move your site's content to a new domain - KEYPOINT - that has NEVER been registered by anyone ever before. Check this in whois. Do not use a dropped domain. Then upload your content there, get the site indexed and start over with your good content on a fresh domain.

You dont think a 301 will do the job?
It has done before if you have got hit by Penguin without receiving any message in GWT.
 
You dont think a 301 will do the job?
It has done before if you have got hit by Penguin without receiving any message in GWT.

Then you will be crying again when they refresh it. It depends what you are doing. If you are making shitty sites for quick bucks, yeah then redirect it.
 
301's seem to have stopped working as a long-term fix. It seems like you can re-rank for about 3-14 days and then the penalty passes and the site tanks.
 
It's crazy, 2 of my new sites haven't been hit. I'm guessing new sites that are 3 months or younger are safe
If u have some seo experience you will know that new sites have a grace period of few months were they can rank quickly (with spam) or hide from updates!
 
this is what big G call it "Humming Bird Wrath"
 
I am seeing the exact same. Old sites tanking and new sites staying stable or improving for most of my sites.

Penguin works on an older index as there is a delay for it to process. So if your sites are really new they might not have been through the filter this time around.
 
Do they not realise that far from discouraging "webspam" they are positively encouraging it?

Who the hell is going to waste their time and money making a "good" website and risking seeing their entire income go up in one puff of smoke, when they can churn out dozens of crap sites and make money from them until the next update, then just do it all again.
 
Do they not realise that far from discouraging "webspam" they are positively encouraging it?

Who the hell is going to waste their time and money making a "good" website and risking seeing their entire income go up in one puff of smoke, when they can churn out dozens of crap sites and make money from them until the next update, then just do it all again.

I guess these updates also make many people quit seo altogether, which in theory would result in more adwords revenue... Or maybe they just can't do better and if they didn't do these updates, the serps would look even worse once everyone and their cat figure out the algos. Or maybe Google are just dumb. Could be any of those.
 
Here is my written summary about Penguin 2.1

If you built Web 2.0s ? wiki, elgg, jcow, auto approve articles on PR0 domains with spun content to your money site you may have been affected. Each site can take a certain amount of spam links, but once it crosses a certain threshold your rank. This score is based on factors both onpage and off like domain authority, bounce rate, # of pages, quality of content. Now there will always be exceptions to the rule, but for the most part this appears to be the primary issue. I?ve noticed that sites that used all unique, hand-written content on Web 2.0 links were not affected regardless of the Web 2.0s domain PR. However when spun content was used on domains with lots of authority, the link actually helped to increase rankings and increase the sites spam threshold. Any example would be an article directory like ezinearticles that uses ezinesarticles.com/innerpage and NOT a site like blogspot.com that uses subdomains which are still PR0 like subdomain.blogspot.com. At this point I'm not sure if site age is an issue as newer sites might be staying because they have less spammy links compared to the older sites that some people are saying that are tanking. But across industries for keywords like SEO services we're seeing mainstreethost.com and attracta.com move up and these are some of the oldest domains in the industry.

What can you do to fix the problem? Assume you don't have a brand domain. Wait 3 days and see if there are corrections to the update. If no, enable webmaster tools and tell Google to remove your domain from the index. Then move your site's content to a new domain - KEYPOINT - that has NEVER been registered by anyone ever before. Check this in whois. Do not use a dropped domain. Then upload your content there, get the site indexed and start over with your good content on a fresh domain.


We have sites that dont have a single web2.0 still dropping in ranks, we have sites with hand written/quality content posted every day on it and still dropped in ranks, webshops with high quality manually made links dropping in ranks !!.. Overall i think that this whole update thing is just full of shit. Google can not find a solution to the whole backlink schemes thing and can not derank sites with a lot of links or spam links that easy as they say ( that would make destroying a competition a breeze). So what they do is they gather around once a year and do this Google Shit Storm where they mess up the serps so people would think that they are actually doing something, than they bring some of the sites back after a week or so and make us work all over again from the beginning for our rankings.

So what i have to say to all of this ? Mat Cutts -

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Can you explain how it makes a difference? lol

Just want to know how many people were using it. The attribution is clearly visible in the HTML. Mostly SEO types would use this plugin. I've had multiple sites hit across vastly different niches. The only common issues are some incoming high PR sidebar/footer links AND using the Yoast plugin. A BIG site was hit that didn't have ANY shitty spun content pointed at it. I really doubt this had anything to do with Web 2.0 links as some are saying, at least not on my end. The site had survived the last few updates.
 
I tried searching for a computer repair service in my area and WIKI page shows up as #1 result.. #2 and #3 are yellow pages with sponsored listings showing on their page 1-- WTF GOOGLE !! This seems to be the most f****ed up update by google !!!
 
1st site went from 1st to 7th. Seems my contact page is out ranking my homepage with the same targeted keywords and density, the only thing I notice off the cuff is that the contact page contains the keyword in the url, which I doubt would have any impact anymore.

2nd site went from 5th to no where to be see on the first 4 pages.

Hope it reshuffles, I've never been hit so hard. This is bullshit.

No messages in GWT either.
 
Penguin 1 on April 24, 2012 (impacting around 3.1% of queries)
Penguin 2 on May 26, 2012 (impacting less than 0.1%)
Penguin 3 on October 5, 2012 (impacting around 0.3% of queries)
Penguin 4 (AKA Penguin 2.0) on May 22, 2013 (impacting 2.3% of queries)
Penguin 5 (AKA Penguin 2.1) on Oct. 4, 2013 (impacting around 1% of queries)
Next update will be on April 2014, we got much time to rank many churn and burn websites hhhh
 
70% of my sites went up and only 1 went down , a site that I didn't build backlinks to for months and was stable at #12 now its at #22
 
My site has dropped for pretty much every keyword several of which of it was on front page for to nowhere! Its a sad day since I worked really hard for almost a year and I was so close to start earning some revenue. It is even a quality website with almost 3-4 unique helpful articles published on weekly basis. Oh well! Dont even know what to do :(
 
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