pfeiffensack
Newbie
- Jul 26, 2013
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Yes and that's why you are hanging around in this community instead of spending/investing your money.
My Method to $16000+ a month! :)
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Yes and that's why you are hanging around in this community instead of spending/investing your money.
asifistiaque
Registered Member
- Dec 6, 2012
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Yes and that's why you are hanging around in this community instead of spending/investing your money.
This is by far the most idiotic comment I've ever seen. Just because someone is active in a community doesn't mean that he/she can't make a moderate sum of money online.
Eagle Eye
Senior Member
- Aug 3, 2010
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This is funny....so you are making 5-7K per month using legitimate methods but now you decide its a good time to get into fraud
BadyBoySEO
Regular Member
- May 17, 2013
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This isn't Blackhat it's technically fraud, when you sign an agreement with a company your entering into a contract. The firm could technically take you to court or try reclaim their funds if they find out your defrauding them. There have been some huge cases involving affiliates/members who have used these kinds of tactics to make a ton of cash, there was huge case involving ebay I believe.
Rotem Guez
Power Member
- Jul 15, 2010
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lol I am -71
takers
Regular Member
- Aug 10, 2011
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A person has to be at least kinda smart to make $5,000 - $7,000 a month from CPA/PPD. Why would such a smart person who makes $60,00 - $84,000 a year post their new $190,000+ a year CPA method on a forum full of internet marketers. Majority of the people who own a CPA/PPD company are BHW members. I think you just ruin all chances of your plan ever working. Not saying that it would of worked in the first place.
super11
Elite Member
- Mar 30, 2009
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Wow..what a message you have... BEcome a robber, if someone robs you...
My message below "Its better to be robbed hundred times, than be a robber once"
Posts like this and people like you are almost single handedly responsible for the destruction of legitimate Internet marketing.
This is not black hat marketing, this is fraud. People can debate all they want about where the line for 'black hat' is, but in my opinion, and in the eyes of the law - the difference comes when you are defrauding people out of their money.
I am glad that a large number of the members here have mentioned the same, because we need to be clear about what is and what is not acceptable in our business. Several BHW members and a few close personal friends run CPA/PPD networks or advertise through these networks, and what you are doing here is stealing from them. Personally I couldn't give a shit if you were making $1 or $10,000 per day at the moment, nobody here will help you to illegally defraud other members of our community.
You're young, and I believe in second chances, so I suggest you request for this thread to be deleted and spend some serious time reading about Internet marketing and try some methods of your own before you resort to crime. Not only will you get more respect from the community, but you can bet you'll sleep better at night too.
This is not black hat marketing, this is fraud. People can debate all they want about where the line for 'black hat' is, but in my opinion, and in the eyes of the law - the difference comes when you are defrauding people out of their money.
I am glad that a large number of the members here have mentioned the same, because we need to be clear about what is and what is not acceptable in our business. Several BHW members and a few close personal friends run CPA/PPD networks or advertise through these networks, and what you are doing here is stealing from them. Personally I couldn't give a shit if you were making $1 or $10,000 per day at the moment, nobody here will help you to illegally defraud other members of our community.
You're young, and I believe in second chances, so I suggest you request for this thread to be deleted and spend some serious time reading about Internet marketing and try some methods of your own before you resort to crime. Not only will you get more respect from the community, but you can bet you'll sleep better at night too.
cryptopsy
Junior Member
- Jan 25, 2013
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Lol I thought this was some kind solid plan at first but then I started laughing upon reading it. You'll definitely get banned because there will be no conversions. This could work if you keep it small, use a lot of CPA accounts, and if you mix it with some legit leads.
The Mentalist
Power Member
- May 8, 2013
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What he is doing is no different than Youtube PPD, and all those other CPA or content locking methods.
Those people don't care about any products they enter information for, they just want the content, the crack, the hacked bot, whatever. It is basically useless information anyway for advertisers. The whole CPA system is filled with fraud and 90% of leads are fake or basically fake because there are gathered in a way like I described above.
Get a "real job", says the person trying to make money online as well...
The Mentalist
Power Member
- May 8, 2013
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This will only work if he keeps the scale down. I mean mix in 10-20 fake leads a day with your pre-existing Youtube campaign or something like that and it could work.
Eagle Eye
Senior Member
- Aug 3, 2010
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This one reason for him to be getting banned but there are at least a dozen factors that will result in him getting banned much quicker like ISP, user agents etc....
cashmoney2009
BANNED
- Dec 31, 2009
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this is pure fraud. The chances are you will not be paid and you will be out all the money you invested.
By your logic, hitting on a woman is no different than rape.
SlimProxies
Supreme Member
- Oct 4, 2011
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It will never work.
- Most private proxies show up as private proxies.
- Leads have to convert after the simple email submit conversion and interact with their newsletters/follow up emails and offers. If they don't, the advertiser will blacklist your IP, your name, address, and you won't get paid due to fraud.
- 500 threads? That means the app is going to be coded using web sockets. Haha I laughed hard on this one. You DO know that there is javascript and more shit that has to be executed, in order for your lead to count right? Even with a web browser (using ubot, zenno or something custom) you will have to schedule the leads, clear the cookies (harder than it sounds) randomize a lot of stuff, each lead has to have a different screen resolution (news flash: screen resolution can't be faked, so it will always be the same), + more, only the advertisers know.
- They pay millions every day, you think they won't be prepared for fraud?
So in fewer words, you won't get paid, will lose time and money, when you could have done something better, like scaling up your PPD campaigns ...
- Most private proxies show up as private proxies.
- Leads have to convert after the simple email submit conversion and interact with their newsletters/follow up emails and offers. If they don't, the advertiser will blacklist your IP, your name, address, and you won't get paid due to fraud.
- 500 threads? That means the app is going to be coded using web sockets. Haha I laughed hard on this one. You DO know that there is javascript and more shit that has to be executed, in order for your lead to count right? Even with a web browser (using ubot, zenno or something custom) you will have to schedule the leads, clear the cookies (harder than it sounds) randomize a lot of stuff, each lead has to have a different screen resolution (news flash: screen resolution can't be faked, so it will always be the same), + more, only the advertisers know.
- They pay millions every day, you think they won't be prepared for fraud?
So in fewer words, you won't get paid, will lose time and money, when you could have done something better, like scaling up your PPD campaigns ...
nECA_BG
Regular Member
- Apr 11, 2010
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You will never get paid for such leads. I mean never. Don't think the networks are stupid and don't have filters for such fraud. Also you will get shaved a lot for email submits which don't convert at the back end. So you will not make any money, you will simply lose money for coders.. and btw... this can be done with ubot or zenno.
Better spend your time on business which generates profit for both sides.
Better spend your time on business which generates profit for both sides.
BadyBoySEO
Regular Member
- May 17, 2013
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Many CPA offers require that the person completing the offer submits an email and opens a confirmation link from the email. So even if 90% off the info the company is getting is junk they are probably getting a number of active email accounts, which they can then sell on. With this method they aren't even getting that.